Thursday, June 23, 2016

The Annual Tabloid Bamboozle



Muhammad Rasheed - "Update (June 21, 10:10 A.M.): A representative from the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department gave Vanity Fair the following statement regarding the documents:

"Some of the documents appear to be copies of reports that were authored by Sheriff’s Office personnel as well as evidentiary photographs taken by Sheriff’s Office personnel interspersed with content that appears to be obtained off the Internet or through unknown sources. The Sheriff’s Office did not release any of the documents and/or photographs to the media. The Sheriff’s Office released all of its reports and the photographs as part of the required discovery process to the prosecution and the defense.

"The original post is continued below."


I'm not posting that "radar online" junk rag that y'all are circulating. I'll share this one instead:

Tabloid “Truth” in Today’s Social Media Landscape

Muhammad Rasheed - FB needs to take several seats.

Jamal Yaseem Igle - There's video as well.

Muhammad Rasheed - Video of y'all falling for that click-bait bamboozle every year? Quit.

The Michael Jackson Trial: What Went Wrong?

Bill Vallely - It's not just the tabloids printing these stories. The Establishment Media is reporting it, and they have physical evidence collected by the police. Sorry, dude - Michael Jackson was a degenerate who abused little boys.

Muhammad Rasheed - "The Establishment Media" isn't reporting it, they are all uncritically sharing it from the same tabloid rag source ("RadioOnline").

But I'll admit I enjoy watching y'all step over the actual factual evidence of the case to hold tightly to the clear "wacko-jacko!" bs. It really does demonstrate levels of character strength. #lolAtSorryDude

Jamal Yaseem Igle - Actually, they are: LA Times, Huffington Post, Billboard, Vanity Fair, San Jose Mercury, and the Independent are all reporting on it now.

Jamal Yaseem Igle
- And now USA today.

Bill Vallely"The Establishment Media" isn't reporting it, they are all uncritically sharing it from the same tabloid rag source ("RadioOnline").

Did you bother to read the first line of the story you posed?

"Update (June 21, 10:10 A.M.): A representative from the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department gave ***** VANITY FAIR****** Fair the following statement ..."

“Vanity Fair” is very much part of the establishment media.

Jamal Yaseem Igle - "In a statement, police spokesperson Kelly Hoover told the Los Angeles Times and Billboard that some of the documents featured in the gossip site's story 'appear to be copies of reports that were authored by the Sheriff's Office.' But she warned the media that their numbered reports are 'interspersed with content that appears to be obtained off the Internet or through unknown sources.'"

Doesn't make it not true, much like when Wikileaks or Anonymous leaks info.

Muhammad Rasheed - Did you bother to read the actual case? Is it more honorable to read annual regular tabloid click-bait than the actual case to draw conclusions?

Jamal Yaseem Igle - @Muhammad Rasheed... I looked at the report, all 88 pages of it.

Bill Vallely - @Muhammad Rasheed... There's a simple enough way to solve any lingering doubt. All the Jackson family has to do is give permission to open the files and let them be read by everyone. And yet, they don't do that. I wonder why?

Muhammad Rasheed - @Bill Vallely... Vanity Fair posted the update where the sheriff's office said that they gave everything they had to the prosecution and the defense, and released nothing to the media. This rag story is being regurgitated by the prosecutors who were mad they lost the case. They just KNEW they were going to win because they had they popular media on their side, and it fell apart in front of their eyes as the defense destroyed them and their fraudulent "evidence."

Again, the sheriff's office said it gave everything they found to the prosecution and the defense at the time. There are no new revelations. This is a game MJ's enemies are playing every anniversary of his death. If you can't see it, you are in denial.

Muhammad Rasheed - @ Bill Vallely... I don't have any "lingering" doubts, because I'm up on the case. Consequently, between the three of us, I'm the one that knows what happened.

Muhammad Rasheed - Try and catch up, please.

Tom Hodges - The problem I have with this story is this is the only place I've seen this story.

Jamal Yaseem Igle - It's in the Atlantic as well.

Tom Hodges
- Is one just a rehash of the other story? That's not unusual. Until I see something that's not online. I won't buy it. Sorry. But it's a bit too convenient for this to be coming to light now but only by an online news source.

Jamal Yaseem Igle - [links to LA Times & DailyMaily sites]

Tom Hodges - Ugh. OK. I stand corrected.

Muhammad Rasheed
- No, you were right, Tom. All these sites are uncritically sharing it from the same "RadioOnline" source, which was owned by the National Enquirer guy. #trustYourInstincts

Tom Hodges - My gut tells me that this is Bullshit. I think had all this been true, he would have been locked up a long time ago.

Muhammad Rasheed
- Of course. Here's the REAL reason he didn't go to jail:

The Michael Jackson Trial: What Went Wrong?

Jamal Yaseem Igle
- @Muhammad Rasheed... Daily mail has video of what the Sheriff's department confiscated.

Jamal Yaseem Igle
- @Muhammad Rasheed... No, the reason he wasn't charged with possession is that in California it would have only amounted to a fine of $2500 or a year of jail as a first offense. They shot for the moon and the case fell short.

Muhammad Rasheed - 1.) They talk about it it the click bait. Why does watching the camera roll around strengthen it?

2.) The case fell short because the prosecution was proven to have lied, and all the defendants were career grifters that preyed on celebrities. Read the case.

Jamal Yaseem Igle - @Muhammad Rasheed... You're in a real state of denail here now.

Jamal Yaseem Igle - "In a statement, police spokesperson Kelly Hoover told the Los Angeles Times and Billboard that some of the documents featured in the gossip site's story 'appear to be copies of reports that were authored by the Sheriff's Office.' But she warned the media that their numbered reports are 'interspersed with content that appears to be obtained off the Internet or through unknown sources.'"

Jamal Yaseem Igle - They aren't denying the report.

Muhammad Rasheed
- The full story is in the case, you are side stepping it to uphold the tabloid story that supports your bias, but I'm the one in denial. Alright.

Jamal Yaseem Igle - The case wasn't possession, it was molestation. they couldn't prove he molested the boy without a shadow of a doubt. That's the legal system.

Muhammad Rasheed - Why couldn't they prove it?

Tell me.

Jamal Yaseem IgleLESSONS FROM THE MICHAEL JACKSON TRIAL (pdf) by Anne Melani Bremner

Muhammad Rasheed - From Jamal's pdf link:

She filed a false claim against J.C. Penney, alleging that she had been sexually assaulted by them and beaten, and was paid $165,000.00 by them. She failed to report this money to the welfare authorities while she was receiving full welfare. She lied on welfare forms under penalty of perjury. She lied under oath during the course of the J.e. Penney case, saying that her husband never beat her, and then during the course of her dissolution alleged under oath that her husband had beat her. She caused her children to lie, saying that at least one was molested by their father, and told a paralegal in the firm that assisted her that she lied and had her children lie. She told the paralegal that if the paralegal were to repeat that to anyone, she "would be killed by the Mexican mafia." She said she wanted her children to be actors and actresses, and that she needed to help get them money through Michael Jackson. She also made newspaper appeals for money for her son's cancer treatment, when in fact that treatment was covered by insurance. The newspaper editor testified that she believed the mother was a con artist. She also got money from celebrities such as Masada, George Lopez and Louise Palanker, purportedly for cancer treatment, and spent it on herself. She even took money from charitable sources meant to benefit her cancer-stricken son, and spent it on a breast augmentation and a tummy-tuck for herself. To gain sympathy and money, she claimed to many that she lived in a barn with chickens. Michael Jackson arguably was just the next extortion target in a series of many from a woman who "had always relied upon the kindness of strangers…"

Jamal Yaseem Igle - And you're doing the defense job for them.

That doesn't mean it didn't happen, it just means the prosecution didn't have a "credible" witness. Trails aren't about innocence or guilt, they're about what can be proven or not. That's why reasonable doubt is always a factor.

Muhammad Rasheed
- This is an example of why MJ was found innocent. It wasn't just a glitch in a broken legal system, but it was definitively proven that in every case, the accusing families were con-artist grifters that preyed on celebrities professionally. Other celebrities that hired them before bore witness to their slimeball greed. Even in the midst of her crazy bs testimony, she still had just enough of a heart somewhere in there where she couldn't lie and say MJ had molested her kid.

Jamal Yaseem Igle - @Muhammad Rasheed... No, he was found not guilty. Like I said, innocence and guilt have nothing to do with jury trails. unless you have a quorum, reasonable doubt is always a factor. Who do we have to bring up Emmanuel Lewis?

Muhammad Rasheed - Why WOULD I believe proven con-artists over MJ? Seriously.

How is not being willing to take the word of a professional liar-thief over MJ making me "in denial?"

Muhammad Rasheed - Help me see how that works in your mind, please. Because honestly I don't get it.

Jamal Yaseem Igle - @Muhammad Rasheed... Because even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Muhammad Rasheed - That's it?

Muhammad Rasheed
- That's what you're willing to destroy his reputation with? And that's good enough, huh?

Muhammad Rasheed - 1.) The first grifter tried it, and MJ's attorneys advised him to settle it quickly so the courts/media wouldn't turn it into a circus. He did.

2.) When the grifter community found out that a very wealthy celebrity actually paid out, then they all showed up at his door with their hands out.

3.) Appalled, MJ regretted taking the attorney's advice, and vowed to fight to the end no matter what.

Bill Vallely - @Muhammad Rasheed... I'm sorry, what are you saying? That Micheal wasn't a degenerate, or that it's old news so we could just forget it?

Bill Vallely - "I don't have any "lingering" doubts, because I'm up on the case. Consequently, between the three of us, I'm the one that knows what happened." How, EXACTLY, do you know what happened? Were you there?

Muhammad Rasheed - You're being ridiculous now.

Read the case and find out whether he was actually a "degenerate" or not and release yourself from your proud indoctrinated bias. Go on now.

Bill Vallely - @Muhammad Rasheed... "You're being ridiculous now." No, I asked a fair question. You didn't answer it. I also asked why the Jackson family doesn't release the police files if they exonerated Micheal. You didn't answer that.

Michael Jackson was a degenerate predator who hunted young boys. Now sure why you want to defend a person like that.

Muhammad Rasheed - 1.) I know exactly what happened because I read the court transcripts, and the reports from journalists who were disgusted with how their colleagues were acting during their "reporting." Like you, they were only interested in the witch hunt and not in what actually happened. I don't consider that fair behavior, but scumball-ish. That's what happens when you feed yourself slander from those rags. You shouldn't, as it also infects your character.

2.) Why would I have inside knowledge as to why the family did or didn't do anything with their property that the public doesn't already know? My last name is "Rasheed." All Black people don't know each other.

3.) Michael Jackson was none of those things, and it is disgusting that people want to just believe it because they feed on gossip/slander to make themselves feel bigger.

Bill Vallely - @Muhammad Rasheed...1. I used to work for the State Bar of California and know many DAs. I got their insights on the trial.

Bill Vallely - 2. So, you don't have special information. You sure make it sound as if you do.

Muhammad Rasheed - Hurry up with #3 so I can respond dammit! >:(

Muhammad Rasheed - What are you typing with your foot?!

Muhammad Rasheed - Let's GO!

Muhammad Rasheed
- stupid smart phones...

Muhammad Rasheed
- Dude...

Bill Vallely - 3. The thing about history is that it always uncovers the truth. There are still legends of sycophants screaming shrilly to defend Jackson's reputation. And they can whitewash and stonewall for years - even decades. But eventually, the truth will always come out.

Muhammad Rasheed - 1.) You're trying to bluff me, and it's pissing me off. If this is the force of your argument then you can stop now.

2.) I read the case and the report analysis. That IS special information to you because you only read the National Enquirer headlines.

3.) lol The truth DID come out during the trial, genius. Read it and stop being a goober. Here:

The Michael Jackson Trial: What Went Wrong?

Bill Vallely - @Muhammad Rasheed... "1.) You're trying to bluff me, and it's pissing me off. If this is the force of your argument then you can stop now." I'm not lying. I was Head clerk for the State Bar of California for four years. It's quite telling how much of your argument boils down to denying objective facts that contradict your world view.

Muhammad Rasheed - ...said the guy that has zero idea what was in the court transcripts.

Muhammad Rasheed - "Head clerk for the State Bar of California for four years..." what did that have to do with the Michael Jackson trial?

And I tried to moonwalk when I was 14, too. So and? That means we're even.

Stop trying to bluff me with foolishness, please.

Bill Vallely - "I read the case and the report analysis."  "You're trying to bluff me, and it's pissing me off. If this is the force of your argument then you can stop now."

Ah, I see why you like using that lazy argument. It’s easy and fun. Of course, it’s also stupid and a lie, but hey, did I mention that it’s fun?

Muhammad Rasheed - Click my link, Bill. Read the contents, and come back.

"I did something involving law stuff in CA a long time ago, and knew a guy, who might've knew a guy that bought the Thriller album..." This doesn't mean anything.  Which means you're bluffing. 

Now you're going the "I know you are, but what am I?" route. Classy.

Just read the thing. It should be a quick read for you if you really were a head clerk whatssit.

Bill Vallely - @Muhammad Rasheed... I believe that I've gotten more information into the mind of a Micheal Jackson supporter. Thank you for the valuable insights, and I wish you all the happiness that you deserve.

Muhammad Rasheed - Thanks. You too.

When you get a free moment, take the time to dig into the actual facts of the trial and let go of that crazy slanderous bullshit you believe. I'm rootin' for ya. You can do it, Bill!

Bill Vallely - If Michael is innocent, why doest the Jackson family unseal the police records?

Muhammad Rasheed - I'm still trying to figure out why they gave up MJ's lion's share of the Sony Music Catalog. Asking me personal questions that amount to me needing to flex my telepathy isn't a real discussion point.

Muhammad Rasheed - Maybe they are waiting for people like you and Jamal to stop being so mob mentality/witch hunt-ish before they do so people will be calmer? This "He did it and I don't care what ANYBODY or ANYTHING says! I just BELIEVE HE DID IT!" attitude is poisonous to a civilized society. It's literally insane.

Muhammad Rasheed - You come across like you are dead set against the truth, like you actively hate it. That's the impression you give. Especially during your insulting bluffing attempts.

Bill Vallely - @Muhammad Rasheed... If there was nothing incriminating, they'd demand every know that.

Bill Vallely - "You come across like you are dead set against the truth, like you actively hate it." I'm all in favor of the truth. Open the police report and see what's actually on it. Until them, it's fair to assume the worst.

Muhammad Rasheed - You are a proud representative of the mob that literally doesn't care whether he did it or not, you just BELIEVE he's a "degenerate."

Bill Vallely - Again, I'm all in favor of the truth. Open the police report and see what's actually on it. Until them, it's fair to assume the worst.

Muhammad Rasheed - No, you're not. The fact that you've been gone all this time, conspicuously DIDN'T read the trial analysis I linked to, and came back with that SAME bullshit, proves that's not true at all.

Muhammad Rasheed - SAYING you do, and then actively demonstrating that you absolutely do NOT.

Bill Vallely - @Muhammad Rasheed... The truth lies, waiting, sealed - but the Micheal Jackson Estate worries that the police report would damage the franchise. And they're right - it would.

Muhammad Rasheed - The truth lies public for the whole world to see all over the Internet. Read it.

Muhammad Rasheed - So instead of just reading the trial analysis, you decide to cook up a myth-legend to believe instead. Ah.

Muhammad Rasheed - Color me surprised...

Muhammad Rasheed - Okay, I have stuff to do now. Shut the light out when you leave.



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