It's a political cartoon, so that makes it both. :)
Why would I do that just because a foreigner, who doesn't understand nor sympathize with the historical injustices of our country, told me to?
The messaging is what makes it art, David. The message and the cartooning together are what elevate it.
Muhammad Rasheed - David wrote: "Okay so there were black slave owners too. Make their decendants pay reperations as well then."
You're being silly. Once Black people were permanently delegated to the bondsman class, the only "slave owners" among them were the ones who had managed to purchase their freedom, and then started buying their loved ones to kkep them from being abused by the machine.
David wrote: "The whole idea is stupid why should we be blamed for things our ancestors did?"
Since you're a foreigner, it's not a matter of blame in this case, but there are inherent costs that come with moving to a different country, costs built into that nation's historical baggage. If you want to enjoy that nation's benefits, then you need to pay.
David wrote: "I did not own slaves neither has anyone else in our lifetime, most if not all former slaves are long passed on."
Irrelevant. Reparations is for their labor and abuses and for the continued accrued discriminatory abuses that followed up into the present day.
David wrote: "This is just a bunch of entitled assholes who never exprienced slavery demanding money from other people just because the color of the other person's skin is white."
This is an inaccurate assessment. Reparations is an accrued debt. White people never have a problem understanding that concept for themselves, only for my specific ethnic group. That's a hypocritical piece added to your expressed profane racism.
David wrote: "Pathetic. Get out of here with your racist entitled bullshit propaganda. I don't owe you anything."
Okay, at this point, I would put in a special request to take money out of your account specificially to give to me personally, just for you being an asshole. Congrats. You made it.
David Gold - You're pathetic. Nobody owes you anything. Grow up. You never expirenced being a slave or anything close to what your ancestors did you entitled asshole. Even if people should pay for their ancestors wrongs which they shouldn't it's beyond their control, how are we to know that my ancestors specifically were slave owners or racists? You just assume that because someone's skin is white they automatically had racist ancestors? That's like assuming every German has nazi ancestors when in reality that's not true. Demanding every white American pay you money just because the color of their skin is racist in itself. Not all white people have racist history and even if they did what the ancestors did is beyond our control. Grow a pair you racist entitled piece of shit
Muhammad Rasheed - David wrote: "You're pathetic."
Most people respond negatively to debt collectors. You'll get over it.
David wrote: "Nobody owes you anything."
The US government owes me Reparations for its complicity in the nation's systemic racist practices against my ethnic group for generations.
David wrote: "Grow up."
I already did. That's why we're talking about this. If I was an immature juvenile, I would believe you at your word.
David wrote: "You never expirenced being a slave or anything close to what your ancestors did"
Irrelevant.
David wrote: "you entitled asshole."
You're very uncouth, vulgar, and foul-mouthed. Are you always like this or just when confronted by your debt collector?
David wrote: "Even if people should pay for their ancestors wrongs which they shouldn't"
Of course they should. lol When a relative dies, don;t you have to clear their debts?
David wrote: "it's beyond their control, how are we to know that my ancestors specifically were slave owners or racists?"
The entire country was built from scratch on free slave labor and it prospered from continued exploitation of Black people up into the modern day. Congress will add the Reparations debt to the national budget. It doesn't need to be over complicated.
David wrote: "You just assume that because someone's skin is white they automatically had racist ancestors?"
Did I not ask you point blank whether you were American or not? When you said "No" I said your opinion didn't matter. You then went on an uncouth profane rant in perfect immitation of a triggered American white racist. lol
David wrote: "That's like assuming every German has nazi ancestors"
lol It's nothing like that. You suck at analogies.
David wrote: "Demanding every white American pay"
I'm demanding the government pay it.
David Gold - Uh yeah saying you didn't expirence slavery is not irrelevant but a good point as to why you need to shut your entitled mouth. Lol nobody in the usa government has ties to black slavery that is all done. And has been for a long ass time. An entire race should not be judged/blamed for their ancestors that in itself is racist. That's like if my ancestors were killed by a black person so I demanded black people pay me and that all black people are racist because of it. It's stupid entitled and downright racist to think like this. Have fun being what you claim to be against hypocrite.
You don't defeat racism with more racism. Go ahead give me another long winded comment on how white people owe you money racist idiot lol
Muhammad Rasheed - David wrote: "Uh yeah saying you didn't expirence slavery is not irrelevant but a good point as to why you need to shut your entitled mouth."
You're very salty and resentful. people like you are the reason we can't get pass racism. Now it's your turn to grow up, bud. Preferably tonight.
David wrote: "Lol nobody in the usa government has ties to black slavery that is all done. And has been for a long ass time."
Your ridiculous amounts of ignorance must be tied to the fact that you appear to worship money like a filthy pagan. Are you a hoarder?
David wrote: "An entire race should not be judged/blamed for their ancestors that in itself is racist."
I blame the enitre race because you all want to continue to exploit my people to maintain your plastic racism aristocracy. It's been 400 yrs now and you're still doing it. If you want to be seen in a different light then you need to start acting different.
David wrote: "That's like if my ancestors were killed by a black person so I..."
Please stop. Your analogies are trash gibberish. I doubt they even make sense to you.
David wrote: "You don't defeat racism with more racism."
Demanding an end to systemic racism and achieving the long overdue Reparatory Justice payout is not "racism," silly. it's the very definition of "anti-racism." I can't change your ignorant, uncouth heart, but we can certainly reverse the economic damages.
David Gold - I don't worship money lool just goes to show how willing you are to say anything against me because I'm white and I disagree with you lol. Nobody in the western world is exploiting your people. Grow up. If anybody is, it's case by case and should not be looked at as everyone's fault. Real racism and horrible shit is still very active in third world countries. Focus on those issues, not wah the system is racist because they won't pay me money for things I never had to go through and nobody alive is doing! You can get a job, a house, a car, take out a loan, live next door to me, you have every right I do so shut up. Next, you're gonna say well police target us more and all that old shit. Police are known to abuse their power it happens to everyone. Police pull over and harm and kill white people too. It's not just you. You're not special. My own brother who is white af gets pulled over by the cops all the time for doing nothing but walking home from work. Sure, racism still exists, but it's case by case. Focus on the individual. If you see someone being racist to someone else go ahead kick their ass, I'll join you. But don't feed me this bullshit that systemic racism is still so bad when you can do everything I can do. Do you want equal rights or special treatment?
David Gold - And yes, demanding all white Americans are racist and need to give you money *is* racism. It's judging someone based on the colour of their skin. That is the textbook definition of racism.
Muhammad Rasheed - David wrote: "I don't worship money"
Sure you do. That's why you're going on this vulgar, foul-mouthed tear at just the idea of sharing wealth, land & rule with the Black American former slave class. White men hoard wealth and monopolize government to prevent from sharing money. It's clearly a pagan-based psychosis.
David wrote: "Nobody in the western world is exploiting your people."
Meanwhile, literally everybody in the Western world exploits and plunders my people. We are the go-to bondsman class that built the obscene great wealth of Western Civilization, that's why you don;t want to let us go. You even pulled these seemingly equally greedy Easterners over to help you do it.
David wrote: "You can get a job, a house, a car, take out a loan, live next door to me, you have every right I do so shut up."
Systemic racism hasn't gone anywhere. The only thing that changed are white people pretending they aren't still doing it.
David wrote: "Next, you're gonna say well police target us more and all that old shit."
We have a VERY different relationship with the police than you do. They treat you liek humans who someties commit crimes. They treat us like we ARE crime.
David wrote: "Police are known to abuse their power it happens to everyone."
This is more than just "abuse." Police protect & serve white interests by keeping Black people from rising up the socio-economic ladder. That's what the for-profit prison industry is for... to keep us enslaved to use for convict leasing labor.
David wrote: "Focus on the individual."
No. It isn't an individual level problem, its a systemic level, group terror problem as the links above demonstrate.
David wrote: "But don't feed me this bullshit that systemic racism is still so bad when you can do everything I can do."
Read the links above and let me know when you are done. Then I will give you more.
David wrote: "Do you want equal rights or special treatment?"
lol Do you think economic equality can be achieved without providing the same massive wealth infusions into Black homes that white have received? What does "equal" mean in your universe?
David wrote: "And yes, demanding all white Americans are racist"
I'm not "demanding" white Americans are racist (whatever that means), I'm pointing out that's how you act. If you don't want to be seen that way, then just stop doing it.
David wrote: "and need to give you money is racism."
Congress will pay it. Relax.
David wrote: "It's judging someone based on the colour of their skin."
This hasn't to do with "skin color" and everythig to do with the history of exploitation and plunder based on the targeting of my people along lineage & heritage. You don;t treat the Black immigrants the way you historically treat me.
So have we stopped pretending you aren't a white American now? lol
David Gold - Lol nice documents did you write them all yourself? What a load of shit. Newsflash moron, I'm not hoarding anything from you I am not wealthy I struggle myself lol. I spent the first 20 years of my life in a dead-end town in a falling-apart home with huge mold damage that seriously damaged my immune system permanently. Stop trying to say since I'm white I'm some wealthy hoarder lol. Surprise! You're not the only one who struggles financially and can't get the government to do dick all to help you get out of it. Surprise right? It's as if GASP everyone goes through hardships and you're not a special snowflake just because your skin colour is black. And yes, your assumption that all white people need to pay you for racism is racist. If you see a white person on the street do you believe that that white person has been supporting this government you claim to be exploiting you? Do you believe that that white person owes you reparations for racism? If so, that literally is assuming something based on the colour of their skin. You are so brainwashed by your racist bias that you can't see common sense. Nobody owes you anything you're not some special snowflake that has been victimized. Everyone has hardships everyone experiences people who are racist to them (Hell I'm experiencing it right now you believe without even knowing me or my heritage that I and people like me owe you money just because of the colour of our skin.) And your comment on do you want equality or special treatment is basically just you saying yes I want special treatment I want the economic inequality that happened to us, to happen to you. Again, you don't fight racism with racism. And equality to me means what we already have. I don't care about your fake little pdf documents you downloaded from some far-left bullshit website you can do everything I can do. And sure, you will meet people who treat you like shit for your skin colour and try to rip you off or make life generally hard for you, but so will I. We are both equal. You are just a racist entitled cry baby who can't get over the fact that you share the world with white people now. Get over yourself.
But you obviously aren't listening to reason. Since your apparently a moderator with certainly NO bias at all to other people's political beliefs let's leave this here. Unless you want to ban me for 'hate speech' sorry I disagree with your beliefs but it will be okay I promise it's not the end of the world. Have a nice day:)
Muhammad Rasheed - David wrote: "Lol nice documents did you write them all yourself? [...] I don't care about your fake little pdf documents you downloaded from some far-left bullshit website you can do everything I can do."
I didn't expect you to read them; you're obviously very protective of your uncouth, white racist worldview. I posted them as the documented evidence of the ongoing effects of systemic racism up into the modern day.
David wrote: "I'm not hoarding anything from you"
Sure you are. That's your demographic's modus operandi.
David wrote: "I am not wealthy I struggle myself"
The median wealth of the average poor white is $17,000. The median of the average poor Black is zero.
David wrote: "I spent the first 20 years of my life in a dead-end town in a falling-apart home with huge mold damage that seriously damaged my immune system permanently."
Where did you get that home from?
David wrote: "Stop trying to say since I'm white I'm some wealthy hoarder lol."
You're wealthier than I am and you are definitely a hoarder. That's why you're so mad at the idea of sharing America with the "despised Negro race" or however way you talk when you're off the mic. lol
David wrote: "You're not the only one who struggles financially and can't get the government to do dick all to help you get out of it."
Stop. Your problem is that you are uncouth, lazy and a barbaric savage who doesn't work well with others. Your problems obviously have nothing to do with race since the system tilts in your ignorant favor.
David wrote: "And your comment on do you want equality or special treatment is basically just you saying yes I want special treatment"
After 400 yrs of being treated like shit to build the greatest, wealthiest nation on earth for your people to strut about like faux-lords, I'm definitely owed special treatment. Right now I'll settle for my Reparations and closing the artificially widened racial wealth gap.
David wrote: "I want the economic inequality that happened to us, to happen to you. Again, you don't fight racism with racism."
You're afraid that if the historic economic imbalance is corrected, that my people will find a way to tip it all the way over until we rule over you. lol Is this the root cause of your psychopathic profane rants?
David wrote: "And equality to me means what we already have."
Did you drop out of school in kindergarten then, you idiot?
David wrote: "But you obviously aren't listening to reason."
You literally ignored the list of actual scholarship I linked above and actually expect me to listen to your drunken, white racist hoarder rants. Hilarious.
David wrote: "Since your apparently a moderator with certainly NO bias at all to other people's political beliefs"
Everyone is biased. The difference between us two is that you are biased in favor of pagan white racist hoarding, while I am biased in favor of being finally free of your mammon-worshiping savagery.
David wrote: "let's leave this here. Unless you want to ban me for 'hate speech'"
The way you're going on it's just a matter of time before you say it. You know my finger is hovering over the button. ;) lol
David wrote: "sorry I disagree with your beliefs"
I don't care about that. Just stay out of my way when it's time for my Reparations.
David Gold - Say what? Lol just because I disagree with you doesn't make me a racist you idiot. And how exactly do you automatically know you are poorer than me in specific? That's next level narrow mindedness Lol... You aren't owed anything get lost.
David Gold - P.s we 'got that house' because we were a low-income big family and that was the only place cheap enough and big enough to house us. I'll say it again, you aren't the only race that struggles financially get over yourself.
Muhammad Rasheed - They don't give Black families those opportunities. They stuff us in tenements and charge us triple what they charged you.
David Gold - What opportunities? An opportunity to live in a run-down mould-infested home? LOL and again you don't personally know me, or the guy who owned the house so you have no clue what we paid. No clue what I earn. You are just assuming. Again, based on the fact that I am white. Just admit you're a narrow-minded biased racist and get on with your life. You're sitting here same as me, at a computer on Facebook spending hours debating race and you're trying to tell me you have it harder than I do? Get over yourself. If you can afford the internet, the time and money to spend here talking shit you are in the same boat as I am so quit playing the victim.
Muhammad Rasheed - David wrote: "You are just assuming."
You're the one who ignored the scholarship I linked to in preference to believing his own white racist hoarder nonsense, right? Isn't that you?
"Gold, David - White Racist Hoarder." Yeah, that's you.
Shut up.
Muhammad Rasheed - David wrote: "Again, based on the fact that I am white."
Based on the fact that I am of the Black American former slave class, you keep calling me lazy and entitled and you keep dismissing my people's righteous justice claim. You ONLY do that to me because I'm Black.
You would NEVER do that to anyone else.
David Gold - Nobody else is demanding my race entire race give them money for something our ancestors did.
David Gold - Oh and I don't believe I called you lazy. Entitled yes but lazy no. Stop putting words in my mouth pls:)
David Gold - And again if you're sitting here arguing on fb if you can afford the Internet and the time to do that, you are no worse off than I am. So please, get over yourself and stop playing the victim.
David Gold - And you don't even know my personal ancestors. You are just assuming they were racists because of the color of my skin. Pathetic and judgemental.
Muhammad Rasheed - David wrote: "Nobody else is demanding my race entire race give them money for something our ancestors did."
You didn't think on that one hard enough. Take your time. lol
David wrote: "Oh and I don't believe I called you lazy. Entitled yes but lazy no. Stop putting words in my mouth pls:)"
I'm sure you called us lazy at some point. You've been reading off that same racist script in this thread so far. Or did you realize slavery wouldn't have actually worked if we really were lazy? lol You're probably the first modern racist to put that logic thread together all on your own then.
David wrote: "And again if you're sitting here arguing on fb..."
I ignored you the first time because politics is about uplifting the group. It doesn't matter what individuals are doing. Your efforts to turn a group politics discussion into an individual level one confirms you dropped out of school pretty early.
David wrote: "and stop playing the victim."
"Playing the victim" is a classic white racist talking point that doesn't mean anything to me. I'm not in your retarded club.
David wrote: "And you don't even know my personal ancestors."
I'm pretty sure sure they were racists.
David wrote: "You are just assuming they were racists because of the color of my skin."
I'm assuming they were racists because their descendant is a racist hoarding retard. #FellNotFarFromTheTree
David wrote: "Pathetic and judgemental."
You're the one who decided to get drunk and show his ass online in front of everybody. lol
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