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Shema Israel - The god of the quran will live forty years in the earth and then die according to Islam. I can't make this stuff up folks 😬
Muhammad Rasheed - Shema wrote: "The god of the quran will live forty years"
It says Jesus (pbuh) will live forty years and then die, not God. Are y'all blind or just illiterate?
Shema Israel - No it doesn't say Jesus will live forty years. There is a period, and then the following starts talking about the god of the quran, the antichrist, and then it goes into say Al-lah will live in the earth for forty years and then die 🤣😬
Muhammad Rasheed - Shema wrote: "No it doesn't say Jesus will live forty years"
lol Of course it does. The entire context of the hadith is:
1.) Jesus will descend to earth
2.) His physical description
3.) Description of what he will do
4.) Mention of Allah enacting His will through the above described actions of His servant Jesus' return
5.) Then Jesus will live out his second lifetime
6.) Jesus will die
7.) The Muslims will pray over him
I think the Jewish and Christian books are so mussed up, jumbled & corrupted, that you all no longer know how to read normally without connecting stuff that shouldn't be connected. I suggest you repent and convert to Islam so you'll repair your mind.
Ruthy de la Luz - @Muhammad... ok, i go with you.
But still your Islamic scolars are messing Islam themselves up.
1. Where did Mohammed get to know how Jesus looks like, if they never met and he wasn't even in the picture for 623yrs ? Even in the Bible there's no description of how he looked like.
2. How come that Jesus will live on earth for 40yrs and than die and the Muslims will pray over him..., does not Bukhari say that he will descent amongst us and judge the world?
(Sahih Bukhari 4:55:657) says, “… surely (Jesus), the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind."
So, what is it now?
Who will judge over him, if he's just a mere man and Prophet that will die after 40yrs?
Will he die first and judge the world, or the other way around?
Will he resurrect after dying and than judge the world?
3. Why should he FIGHT the people for the cause of Islam, when the message and teachings of Jesus NEVER was Islam nor FIGHTING in the first place?
4. He will break the cross, kill swine and abolish jizyah... Jesus will do all that, but is it not established by Allah? Why would he now come and abolish it?
Is it because its evil?
And what on earth did the swine(s) do to him to be killed? 😂
The Hadiths itself are contradicting, confusing, stupid, senseless and irritating! Regardless if its a Sahih Hadith or Daif... it is your Islamic sources written by your Islamic scolars.
Muhammad Rasheed - Ruthy wrote: "ok, i go with you."
I'm married.
Ruthy wrote: "But still your Islamic scolars are messing Islam themselves up."
The actual problem is that you don't study Islam so you'll actually understand, and you remain confused on the outside of the material.
Ruthy wrote: "1. Where did Mohammed get to know how Jesus looks like, if they never met and he wasn't even in the picture for 623yrs ?"
The prophets of God were blessed with second sight and were allowed glimpses into the unseen to make prophecies and gain insights to aid in their special mission. The miracles they were allowed to perform with God's permission are well-known. The prophet Muhammad (pbuh) actually got to meet some of the other prophets in a famous spirit vision-journey, and in one Qur'anic verse, it even hints that Allah had the archangel show the prophet different scenes in the past while the revelation was coming to him.
Ruthy wrote: "Even in the Bible there's no description of how he looked like."
Why would that be a surprise? The New Testament was compromised anyway.
Ruthy wrote: "2. How come that Jesus will live on earth for 40yrs and than die"
In the Qur'an, God says that Jesus (pbuh) will be one of the signs of the coming of the Day of Judgment. The idea that Jesus' second coming will involve him actually getting to fulfill his role of 'King of Israel' that his own people rejected, as well as live out his earthly lifetime, is what these hadith are supposed to represent.
Ruthy wrote: "and the Muslims will pray over him..."
Why wouldn't the Muslim followers in the Christ's endtimes kingdom pray over their beloved leader when he passes away?
Ruthy wrote: "does not Bukhari say that he will descent amongst us and judge the world?"
If you're talking about the actual Day of Judgment, then no. The prophets aren't the Judge, only God is the Judge. If Jesus comes back to actually rule on earth in his long overdue role of King of Israel, then his judging will be on the level of David (pbuh) and Solomon (pbuh) as an earthly king only.
Ruthy wrote: "3. Why should he FIGHT the people for the cause of Islam, when the message and teachings of Jesus NEVER was Islam nor FIGHTING in the first place?"
In the early days of Islam, when the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was still in Mecca, the status of his mission was the same as that of Jesus' mission and he hadn't enough followers to be in a kingly role. After the Hijrah to Medina, then Muhammad had attained the level of a fully-realized Prophet-King of the One God and was now like Moses (pbuh). The Christ would have also had a chance to reach that level if his people hadn't rejected him, so he's returning both to fulfil his prophethood-ruler mission and live out the rest of his earthly lifespan.
Ruthy wrote: "4. He will break the cross"
The Pauline-influenced councils of Constantine usurped Jesus' true message and transformed it into the trinitarian paganism we know today, so of course King Jesus would wreck that blasphemy.
Ruthy wrote: "kill swine [...] And what on earth did the swine(s) do to him to be killed? 😂"
I'm sure it's just the for-profit swine distribution industry he will "flip the tables" on and kill, not the poor animals themselves. lol Killing innocent animals during battle isn't part of the Islamic rules for war.
Ruthy wrote: "and abolish jizyah..."
When Jesus returns, he'll DEFINITELY and unambiguously be Muslim, so the Jews and Christians who recognize him will absolutely revert to Al-Islam. Naturally, they won't have to pay the jizya anymore since they will be Muslims, too. Any foolish Jews & Christians who stubbornly refuse to let go of their corrupt nonsense will face the invincible sword of King Jesus and the unrepentant slain certainly won't need to pay the jizya tax either, will they?
Ruthy wrote: "Jesus will do all that"
Insha'Allah.
Ruthy wrote: "but is it not established by Allah?"
What? Who else would establish all of this? Why are you confused? Allah is the One you call "The Father" — the Only True God — who directs the Prophet-King Jesus (pbuh) as He so Wills.
Ruthy wrote: "Why would he now come and abolish it?"
Because we operate on God's timing, not the other way around. Jesus didn't even know the hour of his return, right? So, we're all waiting on God's Signal. Why do people who are supposed to believe in God always asking when God is going to do something or another, as if He's not the One in charge? How spiritually immature the People of the Book are!
Ruthy wrote: "Is it because its evil?"
Some of it is evil (like this ridiculous 'cross' business) while other items just outlive their natural usefulness after a time.
Ruthy wrote: "The Hadiths itself are contradicting, confusing, stupid, senseless and irritating!"
You lack patience, and you just don't know enough. I suggest diligent study to repair your deficiency.
Daniel Seun - @Muhammad... please tell me, which Jesus are you referring to???
Muhammad Rasheed - @Daniel... The left-hand side of your meme isn't accurate. Insider New Testament (NT) scholarship reveals that the book isn't an eyewitness account of the events of Jesus' life at all. In fact, the entire bible is a fabricated document written by anonymous authors to push various evangelical agendas often at odds with the original message of Jesus and the prophethood message.
Only the Qur'an version of the Christ Jesus is real. You may toss the rest, or shelve it as quaint historical curio. Based on your own scholars' findings, just the idea that the NT is an eyewitness account of Jesus' life is laughable foolishness.
Daniel Seun - @Muhammad...
Daniel Seun - @Muhammad... what about this, was your prophet among the prophethood????
Muhammad Rasheed - Daniel posted: "The Quran says Allah does not know the name of..."
That's not what the Qur'an says. Do you have any real arguments, or is this juvenile game playing only as far as you can go?
Muhammad Rasheed - Daniel wrote: "was your prophet among the prophethood"
lol Of course. God confirms that he was indeed the last of His anointed prophet-messengers.
Daniel Seun - @Muhammad... Mohammed was not a true prophet. And I say that because, you see, the true prophet must receive a direct call from God, especially if he will be the founder of a religion. Mohammed didn't receive a direct call from God.
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Mohammed Was Muhammad a true prophet?
Was Muhammad a true prophet?
Mohammed was not a true prophet. And I say that because, you see, the true prophet must receive a direct call from God, especially if he will be the founder of a religion. Mohammed is the founder of Islam. Moses received a direct call from God. Mohammed didn't receive a direct call from God. The story is very interesting. He was in the cave of Hira, outside of Mecca, and there, a spirit appeared to Mohammed. And then, the spirit squeezed Mohammed very tightly, that he thought that he was going to die. And the spirit said to Mohammed, "Read." Mohammed was illiterate, he could not read. And he said, "I cannot read." Then the spirit squeezed him more tightly that he thought he was going to die. And the spirit said to him, "Read!" "I cannot read," Mohammed answered. Then the spirit squeezed him more tightly. He was afraid that he was going to die. And he said, "Read!" He said, "What shall I read?" The words should be recited because he could not read. How could you command someone who doesn't know how to read, read? You say to him, "Recite!" And then he said, "What shall I read?" And he said, "Read, in the name of thy Lord, who created man from the clot," etc, etc. So the Quran is not the invention of Mohammed. The Quran was given to him by that spirit who appeared to him at the cave of Hira. The Muslims say, that the spirit was Gabriel the angel. They say the angel Gabriel is the spirit who appeared to Mohammed at the cave of Hira , and he squeezed him tightly.
But listen, when you go the Bible, Gabriel appeared to many people. Gabriel appeared to Daniel, and Daniel was scared. And he said, "Do not be afraid, Daniel." Then he appeared Zecharia, the father of John the Baptist. And he was afraid, and Gabriel said, "Do not be afraid, do not be afraid." Then he appeared to Mary. And Mary was troubled, and Gabriel said, "Do not be afraid." But that spirit who met Mohammed and squeezed him, left him very troubled. He was scared to death. And when he went back to his wife Khadigah, he said, "I am scared, I am scared! I am trembling?" She said, "What?" He said, "I don't know, I don't know. I am afraid that I am possessed." Then she took him to a bishop in Mecca, by the name of Waraka Bin Nawfal, who was her cousin, and she told him about what happened. And this Waraka, the bishop of the Amunit cult in Mecca said to her, "Oh, be quiet. Be quiet. Mohammed will be the prophet of the Arabs."
So the one who declared Mohammed a prophet was the bishop of Mecca. And that is the historical fact. So the Quran is not the invention of Mohammed. It was dictated to him by that spirit. And I want to tell you something, it's not a miracle, because any book would not be a miracle. Any book, you know, Homer wrote the Iliad, and Odyssey, it's not a miracle. Shakespeare wrote many books, it's not a miracle. Plato wrote many books, not a miracle. The books cannot be a miracle because if I cannot understand the language, I cannot confirm if it's a miracle or not. The miracle is to raise somebody, to heal somebody, to give the sight to somebody, these are miracles! But to tell me that a book is a miracle, I don't buy that!
Exodus: 3:2-6
Sirat Ibn Hisham
Daniel 8:15-19
Luke 1:13
Luke 1:26-31
References:
The Bible: Exodus: 3:2-6
2 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.
3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt.
4 And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.
5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground.
6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.
The Bible: Daniel 8:15-19
15 And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.
16 And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision.
17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.
Daniel Seun - @Muhammad... which God says that Muhammad is the last prophet???
Muhammad Rasheed - There's only One God.
Muhammad Rasheed - Daniel wrote: "Mohammed was not a true prophet."
God confirmed he was, so...
Daniel wrote: "And I say that because"
You prefer hellfire.
Muhammad Rasheed - Daniel wrote: "But listen, when you go the Bible"
Your own scholars admit your bible is a fabricated document. They can't even tell you who really wrote it, so why would anyone who is actually serious about Truth go to your bible for anything?
Be reasonable, please. The Qur'an will suffice.
Muhammad Rasheed - Daniel wrote: "And I want to tell you something, it's not a miracle, because any book would not be a miracle."
An illiterate man producing a book of literature that is so high-level, that the celebrated poets of his day were confused by it and declared it was "evident magic!"
That doesn't sound like a miracle to you, huh? lol You are dull-witted.
Muhammad Rasheed - The Qur'an confounded the master poets of Muhammad's day in the same way the transforming staff of Moses (pbuh) confounded the magicians of Pharaoh's court. Their reactions were the same.
Shema Israel - @Muhammad... those scholars know what the god of the quran know not 🤣
According to The quran god IT said IT sent Torah Gospel IN TRUTH and that none can change or alter IT words/decree
Thanks for admitting the god of the quran is pagan and useless 😬🤣
Muhammad Rasheed - Shema wrote: "and that none can change or alter IT words/decree"
None did, that's what the Qur'an is for. God's Word remains among humankind unaltered & preserved as He said. Why are you confused?
Shema Israel - if any word in Torah Gospel is changed or altered, it proves again that IT is a pagan god and is useless ..
Shema Israel - The quran is for the delusional. Islam is a sickness, you prove it everyday when you go against what that fantasy religion teaches. Islam is atheism disguised
Muhammad Rasheed - @Shema... Every Word that God revealed to the previous prophets is here intact within the Qur'an — which God calls a "fuller explanation of the Book of Moses."
The Qur'an confirms & fulfils the previous revelations and is whole. What's the problem? How are ye so deluded away from the Truth?
Muhammad Rasheed - Shema wrote: "The quran is for the delusional."
lol Is it? 😏
Shema wrote: "Islam is a sickness"
You don't say? Wow.
Shema wrote: "you prove it everyday when you go against what that fantasy religion teaches."
Oh, my! 🤭
Shema wrote: "Islam is atheism disguised"
Is that right? So, when the One God commands the faithful to eschew atheism and polytheism and worship the ONE GOD ALONE, that's actually very cleverly disguised atheism in action, you say?
You need to delete your ignorant account and go take a nap.
Shema Israel -
Muhammad Rasheed - @Shema... God repeated what He said to His previous prophets in the Qur'an. The inerrant Word remains among us preserved within the Qur'an itself -- no one has changed it. You are acting confused for no reason.
Shema Israel - no bhe didn't, moslems stole from Torah Gospel, and started doing their own thing.
If any word in Torah Gospel is changed or altered, it proves again that the god of the quran is pagan and useless just like IT "Be"
Muhammad Rasheed - Shema wrote: "no bhe didn't"
lol Of course He did. That's what the Qur'an is.
Shema wrote: "moslems stole from Torah Gospel"
Foolishness. Your books are fabricated documents written by anonymous evangelicals that your people pretend is the Torah and Gospel preached by the prophets. Your own scholars admit to the fraud in the library of Christian literature. If Islam merely copied your corrupt book, then all that shamelessly ignorant Greco-Roman paganism you clowns are so enamored with would infest Islam, too, wouldn't it? Think, please. The Qur'an is blessedly free of your well-documented nonsense.
Shema wrote: "and started doing their own thing."
Islam returned the people to the religion of Abraham, the true in faith. The religion of the prophets that the Jews molested and the Christians reject.
Shema wrote: "If any word in Torah Gospel is changed or altered, it proves again that the god of the quran is pagan and useless just like IT 'Be'"
The Torah is the revelation God revealed to Moses. That work is long gone. The Jews failed in their guardianship. The Gospel of Jesus hasn't been heard since the last of the 12 disciples was slaughtered. The Christians forgot what Jesus preached during his lifetime and shamelessly accepted Constantine's Greco-Roman paganism as a replacement.
Now the Qur'an is here and it returns the original Word of God to humankind to guide us all aright. No one will change it because God said He would protect it Himself. Glory be to He!
Daniel Seun - @Muhammad... Prophet Muhammad is not a prophet from God.... Check this out!!!
*1) STEALING FROM NON MUSLIM.*
Sahih Bukhari volume 3 book 44, Hadith number 668
*2) KILL PEOPLE BECAUSE OF MONEY*
Quran 9:5&29
*3) ASSASSINATING*
Quran 47:4
*4) BEGGER*
Quran 57:11
*5) PEDOPHILES*
Sahih al-Bukhari 5133
Sahih al-Bukhari 5134
*6) HUNGRY MAN*
Narrated by ibn al-A'rabi in al-Mu'jam (21) classed as Hasan by Al-Albaani in as-Silsilah as-Saheehah (1615)
Sahih Muslim 2040 h
*7) A BIG THIEF*
Sunan Abi Dawood 3050
*8) WOMANIZER*
Quran 33:50
*9) A MAD MAN*
Sahih Bukhari 3175
*10) MESSENGER OF SATAN*
Sahih Muslim 1797 b
*11) LEGALIZE ADULTERY AND FORNICATION*
Sahih al-Bukhari 5119
*12) VIOLENCE*
Quran 8:12 9:14.
*13) HEARTLESS MAN*
Sahih Muslim 1695 b
Muhammad Rasheed - @Daniel...What does this list supposed to mean to me?
It looks like a hostile and biased non-Muslim put together a list that pretends to summarize some hadith and Qur'anic verses from a disbeliever's willfully ignorant twist.
Aren't you the same meme poster who pretended that the Qur'an 4:157 meant that Allah didn't know someone's name?
Muhammad Rasheed - All you have to do is read the verses and hadith in their context to see your list is just sloppy propaganda.
This is how you all always "argue" -- you just play childish games.
Boakai Bility - MUSLIMS God is for all creations. But CHRISTANS god are for special peoples. That while, you need another helper( holy spirit) to help you understand him 👍
Hermine Dürager - The hl.Spirit is God!!! But it's you who need a man as helper. Without Mohamed and his teaching of Quran and Sunnah you would not know Islam.
Muhammad Rasheed - Hermine wrote: "Without Mohamed and his teaching of Quran and Sunnah you would not know Islam"
lol Literally everything humans know about God came from the preaching of His prophets. That's their job, what they were anointed for in the first place. That's why Jesus (pbuh) told the people of his day that they had to come to him to get the Truth of the Lord thy God.
Of COURSE we need to go through Muhammad (pbuh) to get the Truth of God from the final revelation sent down. hahaha
Boakai Bility - @Muhammad... Nothing more than this to my brother 👍. Thank you so much for this wonderful clearafication🙏🙏🙏
Hermine Dürager - @Muhammad... Than please show me one other prophet who is not in contradiction with Mohamed! Otherwise your Mohamed is a false prophet, because God has promised, that his Word will never pass away. (Don't get corrupted).
Hermine Dürager - @Boakai... Do you have prove, that even one of the other Prophet are in confirmation with Mohamed? If not, Mohamed is a false prophet, because Gods revelation never passes away.
Muhammad Rasheed - Hermine wrote: "Than please show me one other prophet who is not in contradiction with Mohamed!"
All of the prophets of God — from Adam (pbuh) to Noah (pbuh) to Abraham (pbuh) to Moses (pbuh) to Jesus (pbuh) to Muhammad (pbuh) — were in agreement and submitted themselves to the Only True God that Jesus worshiped.
Muhammad Rasheed - Hermine wrote: "Gods revelation never passes away."
It hasn't. That's what the Qur'an is for. The Qur'an is the preserved and inerrant Word of God on earth, confirming & fulfilling what came before as well as correcting the errors conjured by the wayward Jews and Christians who were sloppy in their guardianship.
Hermine Dürager - Please show me this scriptures of the Prophets of Israel and Apostels of Jesus, who are in agreement with your Mohameds Quran and Sunnah! The only socalled prophet of Islam, who everyone killed, who critisiesed him and didn't fully obay without questioning. See for example Quran 9,5 and 29. What a false picture of the true God!💖
Hermine Dürager - That means, you call the God of the Prophets of Israel and Apostels of Jesus a Lier, who promised, that his Word will never pass away 💖.
Muhammad Rasheed - Hermine wrote: "who promised, that his Word will never pass away"
It didn't. That's literally what the Qur'an represents, the preservation of God's Word.
Hermine Dürager - Think please.
God has sent his prophets and in the end his promised Messiah Jesus to fulfill his revelation. And their scriptures are collected in one Book. But 600 years later a man from another offspring than Jews and another god of kaaba with stone (which was the anciant Idolcult of arabs) came along and preached the oposite of Jesus Christs Gospel! Who is more trustworthy??? One man, who has nothing to do with the God of Abraham Isaak and Israel but worship the highest Idol of Kaaba with stone? Or the revelation God has given to the Jews who brought forth the promised Messiah 💞 who can save people?
Muhammad Rasheed - Hermine wrote: "Think please"
lol This is ironic. Everything you only think you know about Al-Islam came from an anti-Islam propagandist hate website.
Everything I know about your religion[s] comes from your own insider literature library and your own scholars admit the bible isn't what your deceitful and embarrassed pastors spoonfed to you gullible sheep-of-the-pews and led you to believe.
You don't know how to think, only blindly bleat.
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