Muhammad Rasheed - Chile’s Cabulco volcano April 23, 2015
Muhammad Rasheed - The most recent eruption happened on April 22, 2015, followed by two smaller eruptions on April 24 and April 30. This was Calbuco's first activity since 1972. #climateChange #cough
Muhammad Rasheed - “[W]hile the Unzen eruptions have caused deaths and considerable local damage in the historic past, the impact of the June 1991 eruption of Mount Pinatubo was global. Slightly cooler-than-usual temperatures were recorded worldwide, and brilliant sunsets and sunrises were attributed to the particulates this eruption lofted high into the stratosphere. The aerosol that formed from the sulfur dioxide (SO2) and other gasses dispersed around the world. The SO2 mass in this cloud—about 22 million tons—combined with water (both of volcanic and stratospheric origin) formed droplets of sulfuric acid, blocking a portion of the sunlight from reaching the troposphere and ground. The cooling in some regions is thought to have been as much as 0.5°C. An eruption the size of Mount Pinatubo tends to affect the weather for a few years; the material injected into the stratosphere gradually drops into the troposphere, where it is washed away by rain and cloud precipitation.
“A similar, but extraordinarily more powerful phenomenon occurred in the cataclysmic April 1815 eruption of Mount Tamboraon Sumbawa Island in Indonesia. The Mount Tambora eruption is recognized as the most powerful eruption in recorded history. Its volcanic cloud lowered global temperatures by as much as 3.5 °C. In the year following the eruption, most of the Northern Hemisphere experienced sharply cooler temperatures during the summer. In parts of Europe and North America, 1816 was known as the ‘Year Without a Summer,’ which caused a brief but bitter famine.” #climateChange #coughCoughAhem
Muhammad Rasheed - Mount Sinabung, in Indonesia, spewed tons of hot ash into the atmosphere during a series of eruptions in Aug 2010, Sep 2010, Sep 2013, Nov 2013, Dec 2013, Jan 2014, Feb 2014, and Oct 2014.#climateChange #coughCoughAhem
Muhammad Rasheed - Mount Kelud, in Indonesia, spewed tons of hot ash into the atmosphere over a long, slow eruption throughout 2007, and in one massive explosion in Feb 2014. #climateChange #coughCoughAhem
Muhammad Rasheed - Mount Ontake, in Japan, spewed tons of hot ash into the atmosphere during a surprise massive eruption in Sep 2014. #climateChange#coughCoughAhem
Jeremy Travis - What is the purpose of this post?
Muhammad Rasheed - Just an alternate theory as to why we've experienced dramatic climate changes in the recent months other than man-made causes.
"The aerosol that formed from the sulfur dioxide (SO2) and other gasses dispersed around the world. The SO2 mass in this cloud—about 22 million tons—combined with water (both of volcanic and stratospheric origin) formed droplets of sulfuric acid, blocking a portion of the sunlight from reaching the troposphere and ground."
Muhammad Rasheed - I just find it odd that just the suggestion that it could be something else other than man causing it gets people called out of their names and dismissed as if they are stupid. When has that ever been a trait of "science" or someone who is supposed to be a "scholarly intellectual" in the truest sense?
Political agendas, corporatists, easily bought scientistic administrators, and the sheep that blindly follow them while pretending they are into "science" tend to affect and influence public thought. I don't think that is a good thing.
Jeremy Travis - Do these discount the decades of human-caused factors?
Muhammad Rasheed - I don't understand why either has to discount the other, but it does seem to me that the decades of human caused factors don't trump the decades of volcanoes spewing hundreds of thousands of tons -- each -- of ash into the atmosphere…
Muhammad Rasheed - ...along with other things, like the increasingly dry climate, steadily getting dryer and dryer for the last 10,000 years. The deserts have been growing and expanding naturally. Sure it's possible that the pollution of our factories has contributed to making it happen faster, but it was already happening. Some of the dramatic climate changes we've experienced can certainly come from those effects, and even the beginning seeds of the inevitable reversal.
Muhammad Rasheed - The politically correct stance of "it's a man-made phenomenon and THAT'S IT!! End of discussion!!!" from the leftist "intellectuals" is unreasonable to me.
Jeremy Travis - I think the bottom line is that whether this climate change, as it were, is inevitable or not, whether humans are a primary factor or not, we should control what we can control so that we do not exacerbate the situation. We should also take steps to slow, if not completely hault, the process since the continuation of it can likely spell our doom.
Muhammad Rasheed - We SHOULD stop polluting. That's common sense. But there's no way the majority of us will survive a new ice age event. It won't be any different than the last time, with pockets of survivors scattered around the globe, some holding onto the old knowledge needed to kick start the civilization back up again. And again won't actually happen until thousands of years later.
Muhammad Rasheed - The only way we can really prepare is to make sure we all are learned in the tech and sciences and be diligent in passing it along through the generations. If we have to start all over from the stone age because the average human on earth doesn't know science stuff, it'll be pretty sad.
A Bleak & Dreary Future
Jeremy Travis - I think that's like saying 'there's no way we can survive a tornado, or a hurricane, or a blizzard' in that it's a defeatist attitude. I think that humanity knows enough about how the weather and climate works such that we can do things to maintain it at comfortable levels. If it looks like it's NATURALLY going too far toward one extreme, then we do what we must to drag it back. This is what we will need to do if we are to maintain our existence on this planet for the next few thousand years. Either that or we completely change ourselves and our way of living, which in and of itself isn't a terrible idea, but I think it would be far more difficult to accomplish.
Muhammad Rasheed - Tornados, hurricanes, and blizzards are small local extreme weather conditions that often claim some lives even when we know what to do. I'm talking about a global event that traditionally results in mass extinctions. I think we can realistically expect our populations as a species to be reduced to the millions again. We don't have the tech to reverse a massive tip of the planet's crust, and flash freezing temperatures capable of freezing an elephant in seconds.
Muhammad Rasheed - We couldn't save the hundreds of thousands of people killed during that tsunami in Indonesia. If the new Ice Age began tomorrow morning, billions would die before the national guard could be mobilized. This isn't "defeatist." This is actually real.
Jeremy Travis - MRasheed wrote: "Tornadoes, hurricanes, and blizzards are small local extreme weather conditions that often claim some lives even when we know what to do. I'm talking about a global event that traditionally results in mass extinctions."
Sure, the three aforementioned weather events are far smaller in comparison, but there was a time when they meant certain death. But we now know how to survive them relatively well, and I think we could do even better if we got serious about building structures and infrastructures and systems that were designed to defeat them every time. We CAN build homes that are 100% tornado-proof, but they will look somewhat different as compared to home in areas that don't need to worry about tornadoes. However, people, from developers to home-owners, prefer to live in something that looks 'normal' even if it is less safe.
MRasheed wrote: "I think we can realistically expect our populations as a species to be reduced to the millions again. We don't have the tech to reverse a massive tip of the planet's crust, and flash freezing temperatures capable of freezing an elephant in seconds."
Are flash freezing events something that the WORLD should worry about, or are they rare and sporadic and isolated events? Can we not predict and plan for most climatological events, big or small, if we as a global community got on task with prevention and preparation? Again, this is how our national weather service works, why not do the same thing globally?
MRasheed wrote: "We couldn't save the hundreds of thousands of people killed during that tsunami in Indonesia."
Correction, we COULD have had the proper preparation and resources been in place.
MRasheed wrote: "If the new Ice Age began tomorrow morning, billions would die before the national guard could be mobilized. This isn't "defeatist." This is actually real."
I don't think ice ages happen overnight. Despite the fact that they do happen relatively quickly, that 'quickly' is a matter of years or decades, nor hours or days.
Muhammad Rasheed - Billions of people will die before realize that the extreme, global-level catastrophe weather is really upon us.
Jeremy Travis wrote: "Are flash freezing events something that the WORLD should worry about, or are they rare and sporadic and isolated events?"
It would be the entire northern hemisphere.
Muhammad Rasheed - Jeremy Travis wrote: "Can we not predict and plan for most climatological events, big or small, if we as a global community got on task with prevention and preparation? Again, this is how our national weather service works, why not do the same thing globally?"
There was an earthquake in the middle of the ocean, and a few days later a record breaking tsunami killed hundreds of thousands of people and there was nothing we could do about it.
That was a small local event.
Muhammad Rasheed - Jeremy Travis wrote: "Correction, we COULD have had the proper preparation and resources been in place."
Then why didn't we?
Muhammad Rasheed - Jeremy Travis wrote: "I don't think ice ages happen overnight. Despite the fact that they do happen relatively quickly, that 'quickly' is a matter of years or decades, nor hours or days."
What happens is that the ice at the poles eventually gets so heavy it slides the earth's crust around like a loose-fitting orange peel. The poles are now in the temperate zones, and the normally habital regions are in the pole areas. This happens extremely quickly, causing the flash freezing phenomenon. The glaciers begin to melt, which takes centuries, and the resulting upheaval of the combined massive disruption to the environment causes insane weather phenomena we haven't seen in literally 10,000 years. Global destruction. In our cultural memories, we have various world-wide Deluge "myths" to remind us of it, but today, the people with the power to prepare for it, don't believe it's true. They think all we have to do is build a tornado proof house and we're straight.
Jeremy Travis - Hurricane Katrina.
It has been known for decades that New Orleans sat below sea level, was too close to the sea for flooding to NOT be a concern should the levees fall, and that the levees were just slightly good enough to hold back a mid-level oceanic threat, yet and still, the U.S. government chose not to re-build the levee system so as to protect the city and surrounding area from a larger event. I think it's the Netherlands that have a far superior levee system that had, it been replicated in Louisiana, could have prevented the large-scale damage that came after Katrina. But it is this type of neglect of infrastructure that leads to people dying in these types of events, and if we see that we are in a potentially dangerous situation, why would we NOT do something to better safeguard the population?
Muhammad Rasheed - Jeremy Travis wrote: "...and if we see that we are in a potentially dangerous situation, why would we NOT do something to better safeguard the population?"
Whatever it is, it is exactly what will keep us from doing anything about a global level catastrophe before it's far too late.
Jeremy Travis – MRasheed wrote: "What happens is that the ice at the poles eventually gets so heavy it slides the earth's crust around like a loose-fitting orange peel. The poles are now in the temperate zones, and the normally habital regions are in the pole areas. This happens extremely quickly, causing the flash freezing phenomenon. The glaciers begin to melt, which takes centuries, and the resulting upheaval of the combined massive disruption to the environment causes insane weather phenomena we haven't seen in literally 10,000 years."
Show me some proof of this, please.
MRasheed wrote: "Global destruction. In our cultural memories, we have various world-wide Deluge ‘myths’ to remind us of it, but today, the people with the power to prepare for it, don't believe it's true. They think all we have to do is build a tornado proof house and we're straight."
I think that the people with power want it to happen, because nothing makes ruling easier than a recently and greatly diminished populace rife with fear and despair after a life-altering event that has affected so many.
Muhammad Rasheed - Personally, I think it's because the leftist intellectual who is in power to actually affect such change, believes in the dangers of "overpopulation." They want those billions to get paired down significantly, and probably will only work to save a select group of elitists, just like they show in those films. That lines up perfectly with that ideology.
Jeremy Travis wrote: Show me some proof of this, please."
Here: Piri Reis and the Hapgood Hypotheses
Jeremy Travis - MRasheed wrote: "Whatever it is, it is exactly what will keep us from doing anything about a global level catastrophe before it's far too late."
You mean like thinking that detrimental climate change is a largely natural think and that humans have little to no effect on it?
Jeremy Travis - MRasheed wrote: "Personally, I think it's because the leftist intellectual who is in power to actually affect such change"
Who is this mysterious leftist of which you so coyly speak?
Muhammad Rasheed - The opposite side of the aisle from the extreme right.
Jeremy Travis - ELIZABETH WARREN AND BERNIE SANDERS?!
Muhammad Rasheed - I mean the collective who uphold those ideologies.
Muhammad Rasheed - "The Left" are the folk that influence the college kids, and are of the intellectual class.
Jeremy Travis - So the leftists want to depopulate the Earth and are willing to curb climate-damaging practices to do it, while the right want to grow the human population and want to spread climate-damaging practices to do it?
Muhammad Rasheed - "The Right" are the ones in the role of the industrialists, adding to the pollution, etc.
Muhammad Rasheed - The Leftists are the ones symbolized by that old environmental commercial, with the Native American and the single falling tear.
Muhammad Rasheed - The right are symbolized by folk like JP Morgan.
Jeremy Travis - So it's the leftists who are at fault? Do the right not play any part in this matter?
Muhammad Rasheed - Everybody plays a part depending on their particular damage. But the scientists with the most influence traditionally are leftists, and I don't think they are particularly keen on spending resources on saving 7 billion people. In fact, the very idea of "7 billion people" offends them according to that ideology.
Jeremy Travis - I think that you may be too greatly generalizing all leftists and 'intellectuals'. There are a great many left-leaning people who do NOT espouse the depopulation goal, and a great many right-leaning people who DO.
Muhammad Rasheed - Does it matter? The leftist ideology is where those concepts come from. Who said anything about whether specific individuals only followed purely one side or another?
Jeremy Travis - It matters if you think it's solely, or even mostly, a leftist thing and therefore demonize all leftists because of it. When the leading left voices say 'let's protect our environment for the sake of all' while leading right voices say 'there's nothing we can do about it, so let's just make money', it hurts your argument.
Muhammad Rasheed - If a leftist leaning person happens not to believe in it, then there is no reason to be that way about that individual. Easy.
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