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Muhammad Rasheed - Johnny Hart said: “Jews and Muslims who don’t accept Jesus will burn in hell."
I wouldn't be a Muslim is I didn't accept Jesus (peace be upon him).
Mason Mastroianni - Rough one.
My grandfather and I spent countless hours in attempt of swaying one another’s worldview from what we were each convinced was dead wrong.
My grandfather spent the latter half of his life as a devout born-again Christian. I can say from my experience with him, his words are often mistaken, out of context, or exploited for impact. Still, his faith allowed little wiggle room for understanding the minds of those who did not share it.
And, I’d challenge any truly faithful to argue against the tenants of their own faiths in doing the same. All three religion here profess exclusive access to the kingdom of God, and anyone versed enough to claim membership of any of the three, would be lying if the said that heaven would allow a ‘pass’ for members of the remaining two.
It’s a cheap shot to say ‘this Christian says Jews and Muslims will go to hell,’ when it is literally what their Holy book says on every other page. It’s not bigotry; it’s orthodoxy. Its not opinion; it’s faith. It’s not racism; it’s RELIGION. Say it for what it is. I’m a proud atheist for a reason.”
Muhammad Rasheed - Mason wrote: "All three religion here profess exclusive access to the kingdom of God, and anyone versed enough to claim membership of any of the three, would be lying if the said that heaven would allow a ‘pass’ for members of the remaining two. "
The atheist position is similar to the stand-up comedian's position... you put together your quips based on what sounds good to you, not on whether it's true or not. lol
Mason wrote: "It’s a cheap shot to say ‘this Christian says Jews and Muslims will go to hell,’ when it is literally what their Holy book says on every other page. "
"Literally," huh? In my experience arguing with the atheist, your position is the unlearned position. It would be more fun to argue with you if you first studied the scripture and had an actual, fact-based critique to pull from. Just making up what you only think scripture says and arguing against it in the classic strawman fallacy – makes you stand on shaky ground before you even start.
The Holy Qur'an - 2:62
Those who believe in the Qur'an, and those who follow the Jewish scriptures, and the Christians and the Sabians—any who believe in the One God and the Last Day, and work righteousness—shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
The Holy Qur'an - 2:111-112
111. And they say: "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their vain desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful."
112. Nay, whoever submits His whole self to the One God and is a doer of good, He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
Muhammad Rasheed - *mic drop*Mason Mastroianni - First, I’m a religious studies major; I know the holy books well.
Second, atheism is a dynamic stance, not a position based on ‘what sounds good to me.’ In fact, you’re interpretation of holy text seems to fill that exact role.
Third, Atheism is nothing more than the denial of theism. it is not a faith; it is not a club; it is not exclusive, and it doesn’t believe those who do not share its realization are destined to everlasting damnation in the afterlife.
If you’re going to pretend that the big three monos don’t doom each other to hell, then you’re either mistreating the holy texts, or misinterpreting them in some weird modern apologist guise. This isn’t difficult to prove; it’s a historical fact.
Don’t insult my understanding of faith unless you know where it comes from, and what it is. Insult the tenants of that faith itself.
Mason Mastroianni - Side note: I have ZERO problem with you or your faith. But, I don’t share it. I’m responding to you because of the attacks made against my grandfather, who’s faith I also do not share. When I see Muslims, Jews, or Christians attack one another regarding tenants of faith, I try to take a moment to impress that it is the faith, and not the person, who is either being attacked, or doing the attacking.
Muhammad Rasheed - Mason wrote: "I know the holy books well"
Clearly not. Note that the verses I pulled from the Qur'an were right up front in the second chapter.
Mason wrote: "Atheism is nothing more than the denial of theism. it is not a faith"
You believed by faith that the source text of my religion said something it did not say.
Mason wrote: "misinterpreting them in some weird modern apologist guise"
I copy/pasted those verses directly from the Abdullah Yusuf Ali English translation. lol
Mason wrote: "Don’t insult my understanding of faith"
I just proved that you lack an understanding of faith. You should stick to atheism since that's where you put all of your brain power efforts.
Mason wrote: "I’m responding to you because of the attacks made against my grandfather"
Well, I didn't attack your grandfather. I saw his quote and merely set the record straight regarding the matter of Muslims accepting Jesus. The Pillar of Al-Islam called "BELIEF IN THE PROPHETS" means it is mandatory that I accept the Christ and believe in his message as part of my salvation as a Muslim.
Mason Mastroianni - I have read the holy books; I know what they say.
If you were not insulting my grandfather directly, you were certainly insulting him in passing by posting that article in a group dedicated to the strip.
If you knew me better personally, you’d know that I know what I’m talking about when it comes to religion, it’s historical impacts, and it’s holy texts’ interpretations. My grandfather was a biblical literalist, a modern movement in evangelicalism that denies the Bible’s impacts and interpretations after the normalization of scientific method. It’s a movement I don’t value the tenants of, but it’s an arguably legitimate interpretation.
If you personally do not see your faith as dooming other faiths to eternal damnation, then I applaud you. You’re obviously a member of a modern, more humanistic, cosmopolitan iteration of interpretation. It is not difficult to point too many, many, many, historical interpretations of your holy text that would put you at odds with what you personally believe. There are many modern ones as well.
Oh, and as with any other holy text, and the quotes you cite are contradicted in numerous other quotes. No need to get into all of that; we both already know that it is true.
Mason Mastroianni - With respect
Muhammad Rasheed - Mason wrote: "I have read the holy books; I know what they say."
Mason wrote: "you were certainly insulting him in passing"
No. Your grandfather is a famous public figure who was quoted in a major US publication saying something very wrong about my religion. Since I as a practicing Muslim was invited to contribute to this group dedicated to his work and philosophy, how could I not post what I posted? Please be reasonable.
Mason wrote: "you’d know that I know what I’m talking about when it comes to religion"
I literally just copy/pasted the verses from the Holy Qur'an that proved you were wrong about Islam.
Mason wrote: "If you personally do not see your faith as dooming other faiths to eternal damnation"
I literally just copy/pasted directly from the actual source text of the religion of Al-Islam regarding Allah's revealed position on exactly that subject. lol
Mason Mastroianni - I have read them, and I addressed each point your making here already. I even pointed out that the quotes you posted are contradicted in many instances. I have no reason to lie; I opened this convo by confessing that I am a religious studies major.
Second, I also just explained that my grandfather was a biblical literalist. He didn’t ‘think something is wrong with your religion.’ He quoted the Bible, which clearly says in multiple places, that if you do not accept the divinity of Christ as the one true savior, you will not enjoy the kingdom of heaven.
Back to my original point: insult the faith, not the person. He chose his faith, and his interpretation. He loved Muslims, and wanted them to share the kingdom of heaven with him. He simple couldn’t see past what he believed to be the word of God.
Please don’t pretend that you don’t understand orthodoxy as it applies to these faiths. I know that you do; we all do.
Muhammad Rasheed - Mason wrote: "I have read them"
Your original comment that directly contradicted the Qur'an proved that you have not.
Mason wrote: "and I addressed each point"
Do you think empty rhetoric that you just made up "addresses" the point? How does that work?
Perhaps you should try posting actual verses that prove your point and force me to surrender?
Anytime you're ready.
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