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Rasheed, Muhammad. "Bagged & Tagged: A Rare Argument with the Fiend." Cartoon. The Official Website of Cartoonist M. Rasheed 07 Dec 2021. Pen & ink w/Adobe Photoshop color.
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Michael Carmody - I hear what you're saying. But... Raven he's just a surgeon. He doesn't see blood as black or white why should you? Why should anybody? And that's why we've got a bit of a problem on this rock. What the hell is everybody's problem. We're all on it. Who's better than who? Explain to me one person that can't be hypnotized into the wrong way of thinking. That will never change. And obviously you're hypnotized into believing whatever it is that you're believing. Human beings fall victim to this all the time. We shouldn't have such a hard time but we keep giving it to ourselves because of this elusive obvious. Education is induction.. lack of education is another kind of induction. Mis-education is another.
It's a huge fatal flaw not to be self-aware of.
Raven Black - @Michael... no , if he killed people they would make a big deal as long as it’s negative . There is a reason why there is irrational fear of black men in this country. Because you don’t get it or doesn’t make sense doesn’t make it untrue
Raven Black - @Michael... my dear friend the fatal flaw I s you thinking you know what it’s like being Black in America and come from a place where there are no bias but that’s not where we are
Michael Carmody - Your News-Feed reports do not equate to the way other people feel about various ethnicities dude. 😶
Raven Black - I have nothing else to say on this Michael Carmody
Michael Carmody - Just be careful.. everything you say explains how you see things.. explains your relative hypnosis state
Michael Carmody - We should be celebrating a huge step forward in the application of science through medicine. Very fortunate to have it happen in our lifetimes.
Michael Carmody - I'm sure you know that lots of people with racist ideas have benefited from blood transfusions. A lot of other people have enjoyed peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.. has nothing to do with how people look at other people. And frankly if they're getting it wrong they're missing their opportunity Raven. And that's why we are friends.. we're not missing out on our opportunity are we?
Michael Carmody - I was just trying to point out what you're doing well so you didn't stop doing well with what you were doing. It just takes fore minding occasionally so that we check ourselves before we wreck ourselves by going onto the wrong rail or riding off the wrong rail.
Michael Carmody - It's really good for people to ask us if that's what we think sometimes. You know?
It's got nothing to do with the racist I've had to deal with or the racist you've had to deal with.
And brother I tell you.. if you think you'd feel better being on this side of it you don't understand the whole situation. So let's just say I'm not in the herd.. you're not in the herd.. but we both notice the herd mentality.
Michael Carmody - It's a math problem that can float your boat, cut your fingers off and will cost you or or take your life.
Michael Carmody - Having a lot of people dealing with the same math equation similarly is all that is taken advantage of by clicks and groups of thought. It doesn't make them right. And it certainly doesn't mean that they're looking at things, "the right way."
Michael Carmody - So, it's a very confusing time. Very unlike the time that we grew up in.. it doesn't mean that what came before doesn't really still exist. It just means that a lot of people aren't realizing it because of what the present day is making them aware of.
It's too sparkly. It's not as realistic as the dirt and the grime that you and I played in as children. Today's kids have no idea how to not become lonely virtual technobots. All they have to do is put their hands in the dirt. Smell it. And go run on it or something. Roll down a hill or two. Climb a tree with the same vigor and joy as they engage with their phones or PlayStations.
Michael Carmody - This new virtual platform only makes it more difficult to see the reality that came before. That's the way I've been seeing things.
Atrina Lovekins - @Michael... "color blindness" ignores all of the additional hurdles that Black people in higher positions have to overcome in order to do great things. Color blindness is not a virtue. Maybe some day it will be, but at this point it just minimizes the additional struggles that POC face.
Michael Carmody - So we're really talking about seeing the same thing from different perspective points. I'm asking you maybe to look through my lens and see if what I'm saying isn't so? You can still return to the ways that you want if there are of value to you.. I'm saying they are quite possibly more virtual than virtual reality. Like a version of a screenplay that keeps on being rewritten and you telling somebody the reason that the lines were cut was this or that versus the actual constraint on the play. Maybe not just an idiot script writer. Or the financier talking to the script writer about not having that "idea" in the play "he's" paying for.
Which one of these realities is virtual? Which one isn't actual? It gets tricky. Have a look through my lens. See if you can't see the herd through it?
Atrina Lovekins - @Michael... also, coming on to a Black person's, as a white person, to say ~"who cares about Black achievements" is, in and of itself, pretty fucking racist. Just saying.
Michael Carmody - I'm more than certain that there will be people long after our existence that are still going to be confusing each other over how to look at things 👍
I'm of a different opinion.. I believe people can learn and should be expected to... We have our modern day because the past hasn't been honest with the present.
😶
Honestly things should be easier since we're all essentially going to die anyway. And some of us will pass on genes.
We know how we begin and we know we're going to end.. shouldn't be so hard to figure this out.
I know you can see b******* walk and talk just like I can. But realizing it when it's happening to you or coming out of you is important.
Jenna Daugherty - Michael try to be empathetic for once, stop telling Raven they don't have the experience they experience cause you don't. It's incredibly cringe and insulting
Michael Carmody - The only cringing I see is in your reply, Jenna . (And I will not take offense to your insult calling my dialogue with "BigBird' cringe-worthy and insulting. It is in fact not, as I would have made it Crystal Clear and Obvious) I Suggest You reread the thread perhaps to get a better understanding of why it isn't. We have a certain length of time. But you do have a lot of work to do that I can't do for you in this regard. That's the only cringing that's relative to this issue.. the hard work that it's going to take you to figure something further out than you are willing to put the time into. Thank you for caring about Raven enough to expose yourself.. but maybe all of us don't need any more nonsense in our lives right now. Best get to the hard work and stop cringing about it. Maybe.. it's the only way to make nice with the present so that we have a more amicable future. Stop letting the lying pass from generation to generation. Most people don't really know how to fight until they're put to it.. I'd rather not get into all of that right here and right now. You might not know who you're dealing with... I certainly don't.
Jenna Daugherty - You're so hard to defend yourself but have zero self reflection, so sad
Michael Carmody - Spoken like somebody that doesn't understand what being a medical professional is or understanding the breadths of neuroscience.
Michael Carmody - What's the word for when people don't like to be informed but like to say stuff about stuff?? What's that called again? Do we call that RACIST? Would that be the right word?
Michael Carmody - Medicine doesn't have place for that kind of novel thought. (and I don't expect you to use it here anymore) Raven should stand up and speak for medicine and for me and stop letting you little glamor divisionists throw your racism comments into something that shouldn't exist as a racist point.
In ANY WAY 😶
Y'all are pretty horrible when you get down to thinking about it.
Maybe if somebody had taught your parents better to teach you better you might know better but that didn't happen did it.
Were you cats raised by BF Skinner? And now you want to call me a racist? Really???
What's the word for ignorance of facts? What do we call a person that's committed to ignorance of fact? Is DERANGED a good term?
Nije Durdeen - @Michael... there are still doctors who think that black skin is thicker than and has less nerves endings than their white counterparts. It’s sad that you’re literally arguing with yourself, aimed at a black man, while being a white man, telling him and all black people by default that you don’t listen to or believe us. That is racist in itself. I wish y’all would get off y’all fucking pedestals and just fucking listen to black people and POC when we’re talking about what it’s like not being white in America. I don’t even care for your reply btw. You’ve already more than proven that you weren’t raised right
Michael Carmody - So now being misinterpreted and that being misunderstood is equating with racism in your mind?
@Nije...
🚫🧠
🚫🔥
is a Truly Dangerous Condition
Michael Carmody - @Nije... there are still doctors that are witches doesn't make them right or you for using that as a point of any kind of argument. Really! 😶
It's a huge fatal flaw not to be self-aware of.
Raven Black - @Michael... no , if he killed people they would make a big deal as long as it’s negative . There is a reason why there is irrational fear of black men in this country. Because you don’t get it or doesn’t make sense doesn’t make it untrue
Raven Black - @Michael... my dear friend the fatal flaw I s you thinking you know what it’s like being Black in America and come from a place where there are no bias but that’s not where we are
Michael Carmody - Your News-Feed reports do not equate to the way other people feel about various ethnicities dude. 😶
Raven Black - I have nothing else to say on this Michael Carmody
Michael Carmody - Just be careful.. everything you say explains how you see things.. explains your relative hypnosis state
Michael Carmody - We should be celebrating a huge step forward in the application of science through medicine. Very fortunate to have it happen in our lifetimes.
Michael Carmody - I'm sure you know that lots of people with racist ideas have benefited from blood transfusions. A lot of other people have enjoyed peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.. has nothing to do with how people look at other people. And frankly if they're getting it wrong they're missing their opportunity Raven. And that's why we are friends.. we're not missing out on our opportunity are we?
Michael Carmody - I was just trying to point out what you're doing well so you didn't stop doing well with what you were doing. It just takes fore minding occasionally so that we check ourselves before we wreck ourselves by going onto the wrong rail or riding off the wrong rail.
Michael Carmody - It's really good for people to ask us if that's what we think sometimes. You know?
It's got nothing to do with the racist I've had to deal with or the racist you've had to deal with.
And brother I tell you.. if you think you'd feel better being on this side of it you don't understand the whole situation. So let's just say I'm not in the herd.. you're not in the herd.. but we both notice the herd mentality.
Michael Carmody - It's a math problem that can float your boat, cut your fingers off and will cost you or or take your life.
Michael Carmody - Having a lot of people dealing with the same math equation similarly is all that is taken advantage of by clicks and groups of thought. It doesn't make them right. And it certainly doesn't mean that they're looking at things, "the right way."
Michael Carmody - So, it's a very confusing time. Very unlike the time that we grew up in.. it doesn't mean that what came before doesn't really still exist. It just means that a lot of people aren't realizing it because of what the present day is making them aware of.
It's too sparkly. It's not as realistic as the dirt and the grime that you and I played in as children. Today's kids have no idea how to not become lonely virtual technobots. All they have to do is put their hands in the dirt. Smell it. And go run on it or something. Roll down a hill or two. Climb a tree with the same vigor and joy as they engage with their phones or PlayStations.
Michael Carmody - This new virtual platform only makes it more difficult to see the reality that came before. That's the way I've been seeing things.
Atrina Lovekins - @Michael... "color blindness" ignores all of the additional hurdles that Black people in higher positions have to overcome in order to do great things. Color blindness is not a virtue. Maybe some day it will be, but at this point it just minimizes the additional struggles that POC face.
Michael Carmody - So we're really talking about seeing the same thing from different perspective points. I'm asking you maybe to look through my lens and see if what I'm saying isn't so? You can still return to the ways that you want if there are of value to you.. I'm saying they are quite possibly more virtual than virtual reality. Like a version of a screenplay that keeps on being rewritten and you telling somebody the reason that the lines were cut was this or that versus the actual constraint on the play. Maybe not just an idiot script writer. Or the financier talking to the script writer about not having that "idea" in the play "he's" paying for.
Which one of these realities is virtual? Which one isn't actual? It gets tricky. Have a look through my lens. See if you can't see the herd through it?
Atrina Lovekins - @Michael... also, coming on to a Black person's, as a white person, to say ~"who cares about Black achievements" is, in and of itself, pretty fucking racist. Just saying.
Michael Carmody - I'm more than certain that there will be people long after our existence that are still going to be confusing each other over how to look at things 👍
I'm of a different opinion.. I believe people can learn and should be expected to... We have our modern day because the past hasn't been honest with the present.
😶
Honestly things should be easier since we're all essentially going to die anyway. And some of us will pass on genes.
We know how we begin and we know we're going to end.. shouldn't be so hard to figure this out.
I know you can see b******* walk and talk just like I can. But realizing it when it's happening to you or coming out of you is important.
Jenna Daugherty - Michael try to be empathetic for once, stop telling Raven they don't have the experience they experience cause you don't. It's incredibly cringe and insulting
Michael Carmody - The only cringing I see is in your reply, Jenna . (And I will not take offense to your insult calling my dialogue with "BigBird' cringe-worthy and insulting. It is in fact not, as I would have made it Crystal Clear and Obvious) I Suggest You reread the thread perhaps to get a better understanding of why it isn't. We have a certain length of time. But you do have a lot of work to do that I can't do for you in this regard. That's the only cringing that's relative to this issue.. the hard work that it's going to take you to figure something further out than you are willing to put the time into. Thank you for caring about Raven enough to expose yourself.. but maybe all of us don't need any more nonsense in our lives right now. Best get to the hard work and stop cringing about it. Maybe.. it's the only way to make nice with the present so that we have a more amicable future. Stop letting the lying pass from generation to generation. Most people don't really know how to fight until they're put to it.. I'd rather not get into all of that right here and right now. You might not know who you're dealing with... I certainly don't.
Jenna Daugherty - You're so hard to defend yourself but have zero self reflection, so sad
Michael Carmody - Spoken like somebody that doesn't understand what being a medical professional is or understanding the breadths of neuroscience.
Michael Carmody - What's the word for when people don't like to be informed but like to say stuff about stuff?? What's that called again? Do we call that RACIST? Would that be the right word?
Michael Carmody - Medicine doesn't have place for that kind of novel thought. (and I don't expect you to use it here anymore) Raven should stand up and speak for medicine and for me and stop letting you little glamor divisionists throw your racism comments into something that shouldn't exist as a racist point.
In ANY WAY 😶
Y'all are pretty horrible when you get down to thinking about it.
Maybe if somebody had taught your parents better to teach you better you might know better but that didn't happen did it.
Were you cats raised by BF Skinner? And now you want to call me a racist? Really???
What's the word for ignorance of facts? What do we call a person that's committed to ignorance of fact? Is DERANGED a good term?
Nije Durdeen - @Michael... there are still doctors who think that black skin is thicker than and has less nerves endings than their white counterparts. It’s sad that you’re literally arguing with yourself, aimed at a black man, while being a white man, telling him and all black people by default that you don’t listen to or believe us. That is racist in itself. I wish y’all would get off y’all fucking pedestals and just fucking listen to black people and POC when we’re talking about what it’s like not being white in America. I don’t even care for your reply btw. You’ve already more than proven that you weren’t raised right
Michael Carmody - So now being misinterpreted and that being misunderstood is equating with racism in your mind?
@Nije...
🚫🧠
🚫🔥
is a Truly Dangerous Condition
Michael Carmody - @Nije... there are still doctors that are witches doesn't make them right or you for using that as a point of any kind of argument. Really! 😶
Racism is a practice that takes practice and I don't have time to practice that kind of nonsense. So thank you ma'am. Please reread the transcripts and then post your apology. Thank you.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "Your News-Feed reports do not equate to the way other people feel about various ethnicities dude. 😶"
One part paternalism with two parts gaslighting. An interesting mixture.
Based on Raven's response to the brew, it must've been just as bitter to the taste as it was nasty to read.
Michael Carmody - Apparently there will be no end of the misunderstanding. I was merely asking a friend not to ride off the wrong rails because, as I noted, he was already heading in the wrong direction with his opinion of a medical practice that we should all be celebrating, Muhammad.
And you were saying or inferring what exactly Muhammad?
Muhammad Rasheed - @Michael... There was no misunderstanding here.
What we have is a culture that routinely propagandizes negative biases and stereotypes about Black people, causing those Black people to celebrate accomplishments such as represented in this article as proof that the stereotypes are wrong. Your message is that we should "let it ride" -- allow the dominant political identity with the largest reach in mass media to continue to spread vicious, evil propaganda about our race unopposed as some pseudo form of "high road" speak.
Michael wrote: "And you were saying or inferring what exactly Muhammad?"
That you telling Raven that his experiences were confined to only what he saw as he scrolled down his social media newsfeed, was something an a$$hole would say. You should take it back and apologize.
Michael Carmody - , I think there's a major misunderstanding here and that's why I'm spending my time on it because it deserves your understanding your misunderstanding.
M. Rasheed wrote: "What we have is a culture that routinely propagandizes negative biases and stereotypes about Black people, causing those Black people to celebrate accomplishments such as represented in this article as proof that the stereotypes are wrong. Your message is that we should 'let it ride' -- allow the dominant political identity with the largest reach in mass media to continue to spread vicious, evil propaganda about our race unopposed as some pseudo form of 'high road' speak."
--Is what you brought into this conversation.. probably without any kind of communication with Raven on your part. And nothing as far as "I" can see in relation to how "I" might express anywhere close to these perspective points. But you haven't done the least to educate yourself as to who I am, so I can understand for the moment.
And it gives me an insight into your "context box"
M. Rasheed wrote: "That you telling Raven that his experiences were confined to only what he saw as he scrolled down his social media newsfeed"
- Was something you inferred and nothing that I stated or even came close to inferring. Because you're trying to be a good friend? And you see me as somebody that your good friend needs to be defended from?
M. Rasheed wrote: "was something an a$$hole would say. You should take it back and apologize."
-Is something you might want to look into offering because that's kind of what you're doing yourself.. at least right now with me. Because I am explaining to you clearly that your inferences we're incorrect and the distress it has caused me isn't nice. And we were all trying to be nice here. At least I have been and I was when I wrote that response.
The fullest intention of my response to Ravens noted perspective point was to ask him why in the face of what he knows does he really think that. I was trying to educate him so that he could further see what was in front of him rather than lead on a rabble of racist accusations in the face of a surgical and medical issue that will benefit humanity regardless of the silly ideas in the person's head. And you Muhammad can keep whatever silly ideas you want even though I know you should know better you may wish not to.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "I think there's a major misunderstanding here"
Right. That's what being disingenuous and gaslighty looks like.
Michael wrote: "Is what you brought into this conversation.."
It was already in the conversation. That was the nature of the original post, why it highlights a "black surgeon" and pointedly, why Raven pointed out that the liberal part of mass media enjoy pretending that anti-Black racism is in the past so they can redirect the unfinished civil rights battle to economically include the American descendants of slavery towards our rival liberal groups.
Michael wrote: "probably without any kind of communication with Raven on your part."
Are you having any kind of out-of-sight communication with the white people who are 'Liking' your posts? Being an insulting, snooty-acting, paternalistic white liberal is its own club. Those who share that club with you are already read into the script. Likewise, I didn't have to have a DM huddle with Raven to understand his exact OP point.
Michael wrote: "And nothing as far as 'I' can see in relation to how 'I' might express anywhere close to these perspective points."
Right. That's what a doubling-down commitment to disingenuous gaslighting usually sounds like.
Michael wrote: "But you haven't done the least to educate yourself as to who I am"
lol Have I never argued with a white liberal then? You're adorable. Your code was decrypted during the original civil rights movement, that's why y'all were kicked out of it, remember? Call to mind the controversy surrounding the restrictions for attending the 1972 Gary Convention, if you please.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "-Was something you inferred and nothing that I stated or even came close to inferring."
Yes, it was. That's why Raven was offended and decided to let it go to keep from fighting about it.
Michael wrote: "Is something you might want to look into offering because that's kind of what you're doing yourself."
You're saying that I'm an a$$hole because I'm not accepting you at your word and giving you the benefit of the doubt of your sincerity, despite your performance here being textbook Anti-Black racist from the 'paternalistic liberal slimeball' side of the political spectrum. lol That's not what makes someone an a$$hole, bud. Pretending that only your opinion matters, even about the experiences others express, while performing gaslightly, hypotist-brainwash tricks at them to make them doubt themselves and hesitate to enter the discussion, is VERY a$$holish behavior though. You should stop.
Michael wrote: "Because I am explaining to you clearly that..."
You are only practicing your slimy gaslight tricks on people you believe are socio-politically inferior to you. You are confident in these games because you are from a group what has helped disenfranchise Black Americans and worked to make sure they continue to have poor education in their schools so you can hoard wealth and opportunity from us. Now here I find you flexing at my people and trying to trip them up in slimeball rhetoric tactics so you and your little buddies can giggle at us off stage. Stop.
Michael wrote: "your inferences we're incorrect and the distress it has caused me isn't nice."
That's 'protected class' civil rights speak you're using there. What oppressed identity group[s] are you supposed to be claiming for yourself while you gaslight Raven with the idea that there is no anti-Black racism? Tell me.
Michael wrote: "And we were all trying to be nice here."
It was nice for exactly 6 posts before the villain of the story showed up to show his a$$. You still owe Raven an apology.
Michael wrote: "The fullest intention of my response to Ravens noted perspective point was to ask him why in the face of what he knows does he really think that."
*shudder*
That sounds suspiciously like Raven had been living within a dank room in your cellar, and you've been spoon-feeding him bs liberal rhetoric to twist his mind. You owe him two apologies now.
Michael wrote: "I was trying to educate him so that..."
I KNEW IT!!! lol
Leave people alone and slink your sociopathic butt back to Castle Dracula or wherever. Thanks. No one is interested in your nonsense, save those imps who've been 'Liking' your slimy posts. Go.
Michael Carmody - Barbaric rhetoric doesn't make your imaginings real Muhammad .
And I know what hill you're going to be dying on. Don't look for me on that Hill. If you don't want to make your opportunity at life right in the face of humanity's constant ability to be ignorant to itself generationally be your own guest you will certainly not be mine. If you don't want to inform yourself well enough to not have these ludicrous notions I can't do the work for you but I can understand that you haven't done the work that's needed for you to be able to do it. And what am I supposed to do with that? I'm not happy about it.. but you're not the first person that decided not to grow up. You're attacking things that don't need attacking but you're not the first person to do something like that are you? I'm not here for your target practice anymore. You've misunderstood me. And I think you've misunderstood my relationship with Raven. Good day to you sir.
Muhammad Rasheed - You're babbling.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "You're attacking things that don't need attacking but you're not the first person to do something like that are you?"
I said that slimy white liberals hoard resources, pretend anti-Black racism isn't real, while appropriating civil rights 'protected class' rhetoric for themselves to more effectively aid in monopolizing all the resources for themselves.
This babbling you're doing is what it sounds like when people are exposed and they're trying to regroup.
Michael wrote: "You've misunderstood me."
Meanwhile, not once.
Michael Carmody - @Muhammad....You mustn't be very serious sir. Was what I thought "you" were doing.
If I'm the only one here in Good faith then Good day sir.
I will have no more of your ill will directed at me.
Now you are blathering nonsensically after your slander towards me. Sleep well in that bath of ignorance. No doubt you are drowning a good man in it.
( Yes. I am referring to you as a "good man." Yet likely you'll find a way to have a problem with that. 😶)
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "You mustn't be very serious sir."
Oh, I'm very serious. Smile for the camera, by the way.
Michael wrote: "Was what I thought 'you' were doing."
lol Is it?
Michael wrote: "If I'm the only one here in Good faith then Good day sir."
To be clear, you came here to gaslight people you felt you were superior over into joining you into allowing racism to continue from neglect by pretending it isn't real (while you pretend to be part of a Civil Rights Act defined protected class or two). Nothing about that says "in good faith."
Michael wrote: "I will have no more of your ill will directed at me."
Then shaddap.
Michael wrote: "(Yes. I am referring to you as a 'good man.' Yet likely you'll find a way to have a problem with that. 😶)"
Accurate, since I have zero interest in whatever self-serving, arbitrary nonsense an atheist cooked up for his personal definition of "good." Save it.
Stephen Knox - @Michael... I honestly get what you're saying bro, but I think the reality of the situation is that most of the world already has a prejudice towards dark skin and black American features. What better way to change the narrative of a people than to display what they can contribute to society? We've been seen as thugs, killers, drug dealers, and baby mommas. We've been the cool dudes who can dance, rap and entertain. Those things are expected of us. No one is surprised when an Asian, White, or Indian doctor accomplishes things, because they have all had the luxury of being in positions of power in their own respected countries, and controlling the way that they are perceived by the rest of the world. Just know this is just a necessary step in painting a more accurate picture of black potential. A step in changing the way that we are seen and welcomed by the collective. I hope that you can understand that and maybe become an ally in the fight against prejudice.
Michael Carmody - @Stephen... 1st twins conjoined at head to be successfully separated by neurosurgeon Ben Carson, of Baltimore, Maryland. Maybe you've heard of him?
And Dr. Charles Drew?
When your busy working with the bits and pieces that make up people it's best not to see things in black or white. Which has been my point the whole time. The very beginning of this thread that was the point that I was trying to get through not only to Raven but to everybody else reading the thread. And that's why I'm responding to you. Because I care not to have people bickering about nonsensical things when there are more important things to be bickering about. Let's not forget the a****** that 🍊💩 that kicked this whole parade off using the embedded "MERICAN" army of idiots to distract while he doinked Lady Liberty to Death ☠️.
He's the kind of stuff you flush down the toilet not the kind of thing you put on the throne, you get me. 😶
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "Which has been my point the whole time."
The Black American ethnic group has been locked out of the high-level education, wealth-building class as a group. This used to be accomplished by terror, violence and heavy-handed politicking. Today it is accomplished with villainous high-level political strategy and indoctrination, with reduced terror/violence. Stephen doesn't realize that the one he is appealing to for allyship in the anti-racism fight is the very one responsible for why Black people are locked out of the wealth-building markets and exploited.
Michael wrote: "And that's why I'm responding to you [Stephen]."
Chicken. 🐔
Michael wrote: "Because I care not to have people bickering about nonsensical things when there are more important things to be bickering about."
My people finally becoming free, being economically included in society so that we too can enjoy numerous legacy families contributing to amazing scientific discoveries is the most important thing for a people who remain disenfranchised and exploited.
Michael Carmody - Muhammad Rasheed sir? You must know that you can't be right when you are so ill prepared by your own admissions, perceptions and self-limiting notions of self-awareness.
Find out who I am before you chew on my jock anymore.. would you do that for me Muhammad?
Or go read a good book and then talk to me about what you think. Potent Self.
I like you. I think you need a real problem.. not your imaginary ones
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "Find out who I am [...] I think you need a real problem"
I read your mail accurately at your very first post, bud. Did you notice that you aren't even defending an actual argument? lol You're just saying stuff at me using your [presumably licensed] snooty-voice.
Since I lucked up and caught one who likes to have the last word and loves the attention, feel free to explain why you believe anti-Black racism is a fiction for the record, if you please. This outta be fun.
Michael Carmody - You've wanted to make everything about racism is obviously your point. And you "know" I'm not being but you're seeing "racism everywhere."
Weak move. Read "Potent Self" and maybe stop being a lifetime loser. Not a trump type loser but a missing the point of "your lifetime" loser.
You are carrying around a lot of self-limiting ideas and that makes you think other people are limited by the idea that you have in your head. You're like Rain Man saying Kmart sucks.
Kmart's closed buddy! Maybe talking racism will get you laid but it's not going to help you or your future if you don't understand it correctly. You're not the Black Rain Man and everything isn't racist. It's not your fault if other people are less uninformed than you is it? But you do have to deal with it. Read the book and we'll talk. Till then you have nothing to say because you aren't communicating anything with me. I believe in this world and all of the people in it even if they don't believe in the world or themselves. This whole conversation with you is foolish if you don't carry through on understanding what I've been trying to communicate. Your ignorance is not my racism.. and it's no learning from a higher anything.. it's post-doctorate level knowledge. You don't need a degree to get it or understand it.. but you won't get a degree in a college or university for it. Because everybody's scared of it. If everybody could do what they wanted to do? Would you want anybody to get that information? Read the book and we'll talk. Moshe Feldenkrais is the author
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "Just be careful.. everything you say explains how you see things.. explains your relative hypnosis state"
Michael ALSO wrote: "You've wanted to make everything about racism [...] you're seeing 'racism everywhere.' [...] stop being a lifetime loser. Not a trump type loser but a missing the point of 'your lifetime' loser. [...] You are carrying around a lot of self-limiting ideas [...] Maybe talking racism will get you laid"
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lol So, you want me to believe:
1. That racism is a fiction.
2. That I shouldn't work politics so my people as a group enjoy the same benefits that other enfranchised, economically included groups enjoy.
3. That I should focus on assimilating into the white-controlled monopolist industries as an outlier
4. That I should take on someone who thinks like you to guide me as a mentor so I throw off my ethnic identity to more effectively assimilate into an 'Integrated' support class position.
You want me to accept this as "success."
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "Moshe Feldenkrais is the author"
🤔 why is that name so familiar...?
Oh. Because your slimy a$$ is trying to trick me into giving you money. #Typical
Muhammad Rasheed - @Michael... Notice that you still aren't defending an argument, you're just lecturing at my general vicinity. You may as well knock it off since I don't respect your rhetoric (actually resent you directing your brain-washy, paternalistic weaponry in my direction).
Instead, bring actual value by explaining exactly why you believe (or 'want us to believe' to be more accurate) that anti-Black racism is a fiction. Speak up into the mic. There's a lad.
Michael Carmody - Does Santa Claus exist? To some people.. just like your anti-black racism idea I guess. I'm not foolish enough to believe in things that don't merit that kind of belief. But we're not talking about me are we? We're talking about why you think Kmart sucks? Right? I'm asking you to find out how you create your thoughts so that you could put some thought into that. It's not brainwashy weaponry.. I'm pointing out to you that you might be a little more efficient than deficient if you were to address the matters if there were any? I'm not even saying there are. Maybe you don't think you have and maybe you think you are the best that you could ever be.. you and Donald Trump are probably really good pals. Why don't you guys Go Praise Famous Men and leave me alone.
You're going to resent people making sense for a long time.. I can already see the hill you're going to die on. I thought I liked you. But you're just a basic dumbass and you're not willing to see what you could do to undo what's been done to you. AMF
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "you and Donald Trump are probably really good pals."
I'm an anti-racism activist ('artivism'). The facts of history reveal that lineage-based systemic racism against my Black American former slave class ethnic group is 100% BIPARTISAN IN EVERY WAY. The only difference between you and your conservative rivals across the aisle is the left is actually the Über-wealthy business class that the GOP only pretends to be. The nature of your partisan bickering is little different than siblings fussing over who gets a bigger slice of cake. It's not real. You both partner in subjugating my people for further exploitation & plunder.
In other words, you may stop bringing up Trump's name. I'm not that guy. Find out who I am before you chew on my jock anymore—would you do that for me, Michael? 😉
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "You're going to resent people making sense for a long time."
Anytime you wanna start making sense, I'm here for it. #ThrowDownYourRod
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "Does Santa Claus exist? To some people.. just like your anti-black racism idea I guess. I'm not foolish enough to believe in things that don't merit that kind of belief."
Naturally, I don't think you really believe that; you are the bad guy of legend sowing mischief -- it's your job to protect the whitopia monopolies and their generation's old ill-gotten wealth hoards from righteous justice.
But if I play along and choose to believe you really do think this way from an organic ('Rain man,' did you say...?) place, then it can only mean that you have no idea what racism actually is. If through some queer twist of faith this is the true nature of our conflict and you are serious, then allow me to help you out:
"Racism" as we know it in the United States was birthed in the early 1600s when the enslaved Black Africans were permanently delegated to a bondsman class. This act by default created a multi-economic class White Racist Aristocracy. Within this new system, one group was targeted along physical racial phenotype and plundered of the fruit of their labor, which was then given to another group favored along physical racial phenotype. For the 230 yrs of chattel slavery, my ancestors were prevented from building wealth over generations as a group, while their wealth was added to the inheritance of the white peoples. After slavery, the White Racist Aristocracy did not want their gravy-train to end, so the next 170 yrs up into the present day has shown nothing but continued efforts to keep my people subjugated to prevent us from enjoying our rightful share and full economic freedom within this great nation we built. "Racism" refers to the continued terrible economic effects built into the system by the aristocracy's greedy gatekeepers and selfish policy makers against the American descendants of slavery, as well as the various resentments and violent attacks against my people on the personal level.
Michael Carmody - @Muhammad... we can't bring back the Dead because, you know why. It would smell really bad. So we really can't expect to let our present and our future be shaped by the ignorance of the Dead. Will you accept that? Even though that the dead practiced something we call racism it would have to be a choice for people in the present day to join the cult of the past would you agree? Because I'm not going back to 1600 and I'm not sending you back to 1600 which was a time that I don't know if you have a full historic accounting of what you consider racism.
It existed long before the colonies were even considered. And gained a foothold the way all kinds of stupid ass ignorance gained footholds. Somebody found a way to take advantage of somebody else.. and then they made that the way they continued to do things. And everything that happened afterwards has been a painstaking restructuring. I haven't been pleased with this country's history and it's tradition of abuse. Even though blacks were enslaved they were treated a bit better than many modern day Americans because those folks weren't property. They do anything to keep from starving even things that slave owners wouldn't dare have their slaves do. This is 50% of my heritage the other 50% was what my grandmother of the previous 50% considered black and no one that her son should be marrying. That's where I come from bud. I'm a little white n*****. I have disliked the ignorance most of the Caucasian individuals I'm related to or met allow themselves to bathe in and rarely do I find anyone of any ethnicity worth a f****** damn really.
Geez-a-flip, Read a book and find out how to use yourself better otherwise you're being used. Even if you might feel like you're in good company with other people (that unknowingly are being used as well). It doesn't have to be Potent Self... if you don't want to start there 👀 Really! I don't know why or where you will but please get started. I've been on that razor's edge for over 30 years now.
This whole thing isn't about what you want "it" to be about.. the subtext of my conversation with Raven had to do with him "not seeing" a situation in a way that could do him and everybody else that read this thread some kindness. I stand by that. You sir are artfully fomenting ignorance and are likely an unwitting tool of somebody's nonsense not of your own. But caught in this net you're willing to die on that Hill. Well bang imagine You're dead. Heading matters into conflict offering slander without suitable options available isn't sensible. Won't make anything better. You could have had a life that was so much Fuller.
That you could have helped millions of other people and the future offspring of those other people.. instead you wanted to be selfish and argue with me about something that isn't happening as if that's going to make your life any better? As a reasonable man from Baltimore who just passed once said, Come on! We're better than this.
I know he was right. Seems like you want to prove him wrong way too much.
Muhammad Rasheed - I explained: "...so the next 170 yrs up into the present day has shown nothing but continued efforts to keep my people subjugated to prevent us from enjoying our rightful share and full economic freedom within this great nation we built."
But...
Michael skipped over the above to write: "we can't bring back the Dead [...] Even though that the dead practiced something we call racism [...] Because I'm not going back to 1600 and I'm not sending you back to 1600"
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smh
You could at least make this a challenge for me. Maybe try going off script for once, kinda shake things up from an out-of-the-box angle...?
No?
Michael Carmody - There is no my people except for using language. You are a construct of 50% of your fathers and 50% of your mother's DNA that they got from their parents conjoining all the way back from there the same way. So essentially you and everybody else that you consider a human being are made the same way. Born anywhere on the damn planet. You have a central nervous system which can learn any language or any way of behaving and maybe it'll pass it's genes on successfully.
You aren't of a people. You don't have people unless you want to use language to describe things in that manner. But you have to understand it's linguistic trickery it's not reality. However your perceptions are real. Yet they could be wrong. As in for example a child that believes there's a monster under its bed. You can try to convince a kid of a whole lot of things but if it thinks it's got a monster under its bed.. just like it wants to believe in Santa Claus.. that monster and Santa exist virtually. 👀
And I'm afraid there's not nearly enough time to get into it tonight but I think you might begin to start seeing how people have been playing on this emotional state over the last couple of years while the stresses of governing a large body of misinformed people in a capitalist system continues.
It's a capitalist system so people have to generate income to afford things. It's just as ridiculous as slavery but it's the present day wouldn't you agree?
"Let Us Praise Famous Men" was published a few years back before we were born and it would be eye-opening if you had a chance to look at it. These are the ignorant White and migrant farmers of the South. It's their form of induction which allowed them to be enslaved by their ideas. It has been the same sort of abuse of this programming that began years & years ago that gave the 🍊 Molester a foothold so he could gain power with their support.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "This whole thing isn't about what you want 'it' to be about."
Of course it is. You're the one who proudly rejected the library of anti-racism scholarship to proclaim it doesn't exist at all, remember? That means I am the learned and you are the ignorant. Your willfully ignorant & uniformed biases against the material doesn't mean anything at all to me, nor should they.
Michael wrote: "the subtext of my conversation with Raven had to do with him 'not seeing' a situation in a way that could do him and everybody else that read this thread some kindness."
Telling everyone that they are stupid for not blindly believing the word of the willfully ignorant?
What's "kind" about that?
Michael wrote: "I stand by that."
I believe you. lol
Michael wrote: "You sir are artfully fomenting ignorance..."
Am I? When your sole purpose in this thread appears to sell copies of your book to people you felt were easy marks? Have a care, please.
Michael wrote: "and are likely an unwitting tool of somebody's nonsense not of your own."
But you need me to believe your particular brand of nonsense is amazing though, right? #BuyThemAll
Michael wrote: "Heading matters into conflict offering slander without suitable options available isn't sensible. Won't make anything better. You could have had a life that was so much Fuller."
Not so. Very specific things happened in the records... study over the strategies, tragedies, minor victories, counters, etc., reveal exactly what the people need to do and what benefits they will reap. The very last thing my people need to do is listen and take to heart the rhetoric of people who speak exactly like you do. That way only has further economic exclusion in store, with more empty promises, "Go slow!" gradualism, patronizing paternalism, and eventually a return to chattel with the call of "for our own good" heard from a familiar snooty-voice. What my people need is political unification along our unique lineage & heritage and mastery of the political game so we may finally successfully pressure our ever-complicit US government into making us whole. Anything sounding counter to that needs to be thrown out into the street.
Michael wrote: "instead you wanted to be selfish and argue with me about something that isn't happening as if that's going to make your life any better?"
Oh, I know exactly what my people need. Between the two of us, I'm the one who is actually learned on the subject, remember? You're just here to sell your book to the gullible. I suggest those whose ear I have go to www.adosfoundation.org and start getting smart & engaged in politics so we can capture our true lives as US citizens and the fullness we've missed out on as a people due to scheming, grifting slimeballs and their never-ending tricks.
Michael Carmody - Look, everybody commenting on my posts better just take a look at what they're doing.. where it's coming from and what your intention is before you put it out there. Please!
I'm talking about very important things here. I'm talking about how language can take advantage of ignorance and be used to induct your mind into a way of thinking that isn't naturally your own. You should all be very aware of the fact that everybody is under state of hypnosis at all times whether they know it or not. The way our brains are created and learn make this possible. Hypnotists make money on doing it. S***** politicians and businessmen do horrible things and have done horrible things for a very long time through induction. You couldn't have people carrying out slavery if you didn't get people to think it was a decent idea. I am not and take great offense to being called a racist. Yet I know that the accusations are from ignorance and misinformation misperceptions what have you.. many many people are in these horrible states of induction that make conflict readily present. There's a different way to live your life.. you all know better. So just find out if it's possible for you to live a life of learning rather than repeating somebody else's line of BS. Be more honest with yourselves and other people.. you're learning what you're finding out.. you don't already know what you're finding out. And you shouldn't be mad at anybody because of your ignorance. You should expect that you should hold your venom back before you sting something that didn't deserve it. We've all had a pretty bad example waived in our faces over the last couple of years.
And it certainly wasn't my ignorance that put him or anyone of his ilk There.
Guys like 45 don't deserve our continuing to act like we're confused about something.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "Yet I know that the accusations are from ignorance and misinformation misperceptions what have you."
Tell me how is it you are so sure? What knowledge base are you pulling from to take that position?
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "I am not and take great offense to being called a racist."
You dismissed the library of anti-racism scholarship out of hand and willfully reject the facts of history with a sniff.
That's VERY racist.
Michael wrote: "So just find out if it's possible for you to live a life of learning..."
lol You're the willfully ignorant one in the thread, bud.
Michael Carmody - @Muhammad... that's the first good question you've asked tonight. Read Potent Self. And after the book I'll tell you all the other stuff I know too. 🤔🙂
It has a lot to do with a tie-in between movement and neuroscience and the influence of one on the other. Did you know that you think sense feel and move simultaneously and because that's happening all at once influencing one influences the others?
If you can understand how to pop the clutch on a car to get the engine started we can start to talk about things after you read the book. But that's how movement is useful in getting to the heart of a matter. Helping a person change their neural States so that they can recover from trauma or injury type stuff. I actually do know what the hell I'm talking about is the problem.. not a lot of other people know what I know about which makes me pretty sad until somebody else finds out about all this amazing stuff and then I feel pretty good. But before they find out about it I ask them why would anybody want to waste their time doing it.
Once you understand how not only yourself but all other people are doing what they do and how they can change it will not make you happy. But I do want you to know about it. I think it'll be a real kick. And I hope it changes the future of many millions of people's lives for the better.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "not a lot of other people know what I know"
Your insulting dismissal of history and my people's political struggle destroys your credibility. I'm not getting your damned book.
I think you were dropped on your head or something...
Michael Carmody - You can look at some of the videos on my website to see more. You'll have lots of questions.. but none of them will be about racism
Muhammad Rasheed - You revealed your racism in this very thread for everyone to gawk at.
Michael Carmody - Got to get to bed, you should too child. 😊
@Muhammad... I hope you do some growing up someday son. The world could use you if you ever decide to stop being somebody else's tool you'd be a fine example for somebody of what a fine example could be. You have revealed your ignorance on this thread because I can still see it. Good night and good day sir.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "The world could use you if you ever decide to stop being somebody else's tool"
That's literally what everyone says when they fail to make me their tool.
'Bye.
Michael Carmody - Fine! Keep jerking off the wrong way. There will be other people that'll be good examples if you won't be. But you got to be honest with yourself when you realize you're scared little b**** and that nobody else made you that and kept you like that.
Your mind is your overseer and I can tell you it ain't right because it's treating you horribly if this is the way you're interacting with me. Get some rest son nobody needs to be this miserable for this long without a rest.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "Fine! Keep jerking off the wrong way."
Wow. Liberals, amirite?
Michael wrote: "There will be other people that'll be good examples if you won't be."
There's always someone willing to sellout and be a support class outlier to keep the system going for you folk. That's why the world is a wreck now.
Michael wrote: "Your mind is your overseer and I can tell you it ain't right because it's treating you horribly if this is the way you're interacting with me."
Next time do a better job at keeping your slime hidden. *shrug*
Michael Carmody - Now you're just chewing on the urinal deodorant
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael wrote: "There is no my people except for using language. You aren't of a people. You don't have people unless you want to use language to describe things in that manner. But you have to understand it's linguistic trickery it's not reality."
US politics functions by political interest groups coming together to pressure elected representatives to get the government to provide resources. My people, the Black American former slave class ethnic group, identified through our unique lineage & heritage, are literally the only group who is disenfranchised and was convinced to split up into a bunch of individualist 'lone wolves' who use their dormant political might to uplift ALL OF OUR RIVAL LIBERAL GROUPS while we remain economically excluded in an artificially impoverished state.
Imagine my delight in finding an over-talkative white liberal actually preaching that 'Black American disunity' weapon at me with his whole chest as if he is doing me a favor. Usually it's hard as hell to get y'all to say that stuff... like pulling out evil-assed vampire teeth.
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