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James Fell -
A Trojan could have prevented this Troy.
Greg Lose - Honestly doesnt even look all that while….
Muhammad Rasheed - @Greg... He looks exactly like a white guy. He may not be a Michael B. Jordan alpha-specimen among the race, but he definitely displays the white racial phenotype kit.
Nikolai Hermansen - @Greg... He looks Balkan tbh. Some Slavic, Turkish, maybe Mongolic dna.
Just based of visual cues, but of course I can’t know for sure.
Muhammad Rasheed - @Nikolai... Are those "races" listed, or nationalities/ethnicities? Are there currently whites, blacks and Asian racial phenotypes living in the Balkans, Slav, Turkey and Mongolia?
Nikolai Hermansen - @Muhammad... Those are a mix of phenotypes and ethnicities.
The Turkic peoples (those that live in Turkey today), originally came from the steppes over near Mongolia and western China, they migrated east, and thus Turks spread into the Balkans.
None of those are black, mongolic is pretty wide in terms of history. The mongol empire was ginormous, and much of its population were Turkic-mongolic peoples of the steppes. Some of their successor states ruled large swaths of Eastern Europe for centuries, and thus they also spread from there.
The Slavs, I believe, came down from the now southern Russian plains/steppes, the bulgars migrated from around the urals down to modern day Bulgaria in around the 7th century AD.
Muhammad Rasheed -
ME: "Are there currently whites, blacks and Asian racial phenotypes living in the Balkans, Slav, Turkey and Mongolia?"
YOU: "The Turkic peoples (those that live in Turkey today), originally came from"
There are lots of diverse groups in Turkey and in these other places, from many different backgrounds. Of the people currently living in Turkey, are there representatives of the white, black and Asian racial phenotype?
Nikolai Hermansen - Dude, don’t be rude.
There are some. But there’s more than just one phenotype for each of those groups. There isn’t just one “white phenotype”, and so on.
There are many types of people in Turkey, but the main population, those of TURKIC origin, came from the steppes, as I said.
How is this even relevant to what I said? Why are you bringing in race? I was just taking a loose guess about his genetic heritage based on his fave.
Muhammad Rasheed - Nikolai wrote: "Dude, don’t be rude."
What did I post that was rude?
Nikolai wrote: "But there’s more than just one phenotype for each of those groups. There isn’t just one 'white phenotype,' and so on."
This is 100% my point in every way. There's a difference between racial phenotype "race" versus nationalities/ethnicities. This guy may be Balkan, Slavic, Turkish, but he also has the white racial phenotype kit.
Bringing up his ethnic/nationality in a racial discussion is irrelevant, and even could be considered a clumsy misdirection attempt.
Nikolai Hermansen - He looks mostly mongolic/turkic in my opinion, how is that white phenotype? Would you considering mongols and Turks white? Many don’t.
It’s not as easy as just saying “he’s white”. There’s much more to it, especially when it comes to ethnicity. And I didn’t bring up nationality, I brought up ethnicity, which is extremely relevant in a conversation* about the look of a person.
And are you trying to accuse me of misdirection, or what? And for what?
Muhammad Rasheed - Nikolai wrote: "He looks mostly mongolic/turkic in my opinion, how is that white phenotype?"
He has light skin, a thin nose, straight hair and a round eye. These are the Caucasoid racial features.
Nikolai wrote: "Would you considering mongols and Turks white?"
Which returns me to my original question—are there whites, blacks and Asian representatives of the three racial phenotype groups living in those nations? What does nationality have to do with race?
Nikolai wrote: "Many don’t."
You're attempting to use the Appeal to the Majority logical fallacy to prove a point? Curious.
Nikolai wrote: "It’s not as easy as just saying 'he’s white.'"
It is if you have eyes to see with. If you're ignoring what's real to operate from behind a deceitful ideology, then the faux-complexity can come into it.
Nikolai wrote: "There’s much more to it"
Not organically.
Nikolai wrote: "especially when it comes to ethnicity"
lol Ethnicities often contain multiple racial groups, especially those that fell within the very racially diverse Ottoman Empire.
Nikolai wrote: "And I didn’t bring up nationality"
Meanwhile, both Turkey and Mongolia are nations.
Nikolai wrote: "I brought up ethnicity, which is extremely relevant in a conversation* about the look of a person."
Only if you're attempting to create confusion from behind the tenets of an ideology-based mindset.
Nikolai wrote: "And are you trying to accuse me of misdirection, or what?"
Sure, if it turns out that's what you're actually doing.
Nikolai wrote: "And for what?"
Well, from here it looks like the point is to pretend that only the most attractive white people are authentically "real" white people, while the ugly ones are somehow magically not, apparently so that you can advocate for Hitler's Aryan Ideal doctrine. White nationalist racist hate trolls do that type of clown-world foolishness all the time, where they pretend that Gabourey Sidibe and Lester Green are the average Black people and only Brad Pitt and Taylor Swift are the only true-authentic look for white people.
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