Monday, October 9, 2023

The Holy Relics: Respect-by-Example versus Worship

 

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Rasheed, Muhammad. "The Holy Relics: Respect-by-Example versus Worship.'" Cartoon. The Official Website of Cartoonist M. Rasheed 00 Date 2023 [cartoon pending]. Permanent marker w/Adobe Photoshop color.


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Majid Al Kushi - Jesus is alive today in heaven. Where is the founder of Islam?

Muhammad Rasheed - What an odd question. It is irrelevant where any of the prophets of the One God reside today. What matters is that the One God is watching us all in preparation for Judgment Day.

Majid Al Kushi - Read Quran 46: 9

Muhammad Rasheed - What does that have to do with my point? Even if Jesus is in heaven and it were true that Muhammad (peace be upon the prophets) is in the grave waiting to go to heaven, why would that be relevant to my own faith walk on earth today?

Majid Al Kushi - Muhammad didn't know what is his destinations or Muslims destinations?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why do you follow him??!!!!!

Muhammad Rasheed - lol I don't understand what all the exclamation marks are for. 46:9 is Allah telling His prophet to tell the people that he is preaching the enduring scripture of the ages and not a brand new religion. He's explaining that he is only preaching what was revealed to him by the One God. Just like the Deut. 18:18 prophecy said, Muhammad (pbuh) was only preaching what was put in his mouth by God and nothing extra. That's what 46:9 confirms.

Will you not then believe? Repent and bow down as a Muslim and save your soul.

Muhammad Rasheed - (46:9) Say: "I am no bringer of new-fangled doctrine among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I follow but that which is revealed to me by inspiration; I am but a Warner open and clear."

Muhammad Rasheed - (Deuteronomy 18:18) "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee [Moses], and will put my words in his mouth [i.e., Bismillah]; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

Majid Al Kushi - You better follow the Quran, which tells you about a claimed prophecy attributed to Jesus (a prophet will come after me named Ahmed) show it to me please in the Injeel

Muhammad Rasheed - The "Injeel" mentioned by Allah in the Qur'an was the revelation that the Christ Jesus (peace be upon the prophet) preached during his lifetime. This literature does not exist in the modern day (outside of what Allah quotes from Jesus in the Qur'an).

What the people of the book do have is the Christian version of 'hadith' about Jesus. Perhaps you mean to ask me for something else?

Majid Al Kushi - or the other possibility is Muhammad was a false prophet. He didn't know what he was talking about

Muhammad Rasheed - Why would a "false prophet" tell the pagan Meccans to stop worshiping idols and worship the one God of Abraham instead? 🤔That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

It's far more likely that this false prophet you're looking for was actually Paul of Tarsus, who encouraged people to perform the great sin of worshiping the very human final Hebrew prophet in the line of Isaac (pbuh) alongside the Lord thy God. That's clearly the culprit who deserves the charge.

Majid Al Kushi - He claims revelation, so he had to teach something new to the pagans. But he kept the worship of the black stone

Muhammad Rasheed - Majid wrote: "He claims revelation, so he had to teach something new to the pagans"

Sure, it was new to the pagan Arabs, but it wasn't a new message. It was the return of the pure faith of Abraham himself (peace be upon him).

Majid wrote: "But he kept the worship of the black stone"

You don't seem to know what "worship" means. No one worships the Black Stone. It's regarded with respect as a relic from the smoking gun catalyst of the Great Deluge of Noah (pbuh), but it's not worshiped.

Majid Al Kushi - Muhammad kissed it during Hajj. He said it will come in the day of judgement and testify on behalf of the Muslim who worships it

Muhammad Rasheed - Majid wrote: "Muhammad kissed it during Hajj"

So? Did he pray to it, asking it for favors and mercy? lol You need to look up the definition of "worship," bro.

Majid wrote: "He said it will come in the day of judgement and testify on behalf of the Muslim who worships it"

In the Qur'an, Allah said literally everything will be given the power to speak, bear witness and testify, including our very own individual body parts. Does that mean we worship them, too? 😏

Majid Al Kushi - read your answer and judge if it makes sense

Muhammad Rasheed - English is my mother tongue. How about you run it through Google Translate so you don't remain so confused.

Muhammad Rasheed - There were no doubt pagans from the days of ignorance who really did worship the Black Stone. We can reasonably expect the Stone to bear witness against those fools on the Last Day, sure. No Muslim worships it though, so you don't have an argument here.

What else do you have?

Majid Al Kushi - kissing a stone in the most holy place of Islam hoping it will testify for in the last day is pure paganism

Muhammad Rasheed - Kissing the Sign of Allah is an act of respect for one of the relics, it's not an act of worship. lol Do you worship your parents, wife & kids when you kiss them?

Majid wrote: "hoping it will testify"

I don't "hope" it will testify, I expect it to testify per the Word of the One God who sent the thing to earth to activate the Great Flood's destruction.

Muhammad Rasheed - "Pure paganism" is worshiping the very, very human son of Mary as a divine entity. You may want to knock it off.

Majid Al Kushi - I don't kiss them to forgive my sins. As for kissing Idols as an act of worship here is a reference

‭(I Kings‬ ‭19:18‬ ‭NKJV‬) Yet I have reserved seven thousand in Israel, all whose knees have not bowed to Baal, and every mouth that has not kissed him.”

Muhammad Rasheed - Majid wrote: "I don't kiss them to forgive my sins"

Me neither. I kiss it because my prophet kissed it as a sign of respect towards his Lord's relic. lol

Majid wrote: "and every mouth that has not kissed him"

What does kissing Baal's idols in actual pagan worship have to do with Muslims kissing the Black Stone in non-worshipful respect of the One God's holy relic? You appear to have confused yourself again.

Muhammad Rasheed - For example, the Ark of the Covenant contains the Rod of Aaron (pbuh), the Tablets of the Commandments and other relics of God. We Muslims would kiss all of them (if the Ark wouldn't zap us for the presumption) for the same reason we kiss the Black Stone. These are all Signs of the Supreme Creator and they deserve our respect as proof of our belief. That respect is not worship. lol

There are no people on earth more anti-idolatry than us Muslims. No one recognizes this more than you Christians, since we've been giving you guys flack over your very pagan worship of the final Hebrew prophet for the last 1400 yrs. Trust me, we know the difference between worship versus respect and certainly more than you do.

Muhammad Rasheed - Majid wrote: "you better follow the Quran, which tells you about a claimed prophecy attributed to Jesus (a prophet will come after me named Ahmed) show it to me please in the Injeel"

lol You didn't want to follow up on this? I only asked you to rephrase it since nobody in their right mind actually believes that the collected letters of Paul the False with the anonymously-written four Pauline Gospels are actually the divinely revealed Injeel preached by Jesus. Those are two completely different works.

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